Re: [Clips] A small editorial about recent events.(fwd)

["Jamie C. Pole" <jpole () jcpa com>]

Was that a joke?

I love Germany (it's one of the 24 countries that I have worked in,  
by the way), but be realistic.  All ethnocentrism aside, I'm not sure  
that welfare economies that tax the living daylights out of those  
lucky enough to have a job are a good idea.

JCP


On Dec 18, 2005, at 10:14 PM, GroundZero Security wrote:

> "we in the USA are still the luckiest people on  Earth."
> i would not count on that. i feel much saver/happy here in germany.
>
> "We've got it better than any other country on Earth."
> lol yeah right.. in your dreamworld maybe. did you even leave usa  
> before ?
> i doubt that.
>
> "If you like some other place better, please feel free to move  
> yourself there."
> yes thank you! i like it much more here in my country so i stay :-)
> i just have to fear that usa starts to take over the world thats  
> all i have to worry about here.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jamie C. Pole" <jpole () jcpa com>
> To: <full-disclosure () lists grok org uk>
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 5:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] [Clips] A small editorial about  
> recent events.(fwd)
>
>
> > I'm sorry, but I was also FAR too close to one of the 09/11 attacks.
> > While I agree that giving up (supposedly) certain civil liberties is
> > most decidedly not a good thing, we need to remember one key point -
> > the same liberal whiners that are complaining about the monitoring of
> > certain targeted individuals would be shitting themselves to get in
> > line to scream about the President not doing enough to protect us if
> > there was another attack.  This was not a blanket wiretap against
> > every citizen that made a telephone call to London.  These taps were
> > conducted under defined circumstances.  If you are not a terrorist,
> > and do not associate with terrorists, you have nothing to worry
> > about.  The indignation being shown by the liberals right now is
> > shocking - this information was not news to anyone within Congress
> > (from either party) that was in a position to know it.
> >
> > What good are civil liberties if you are being buried in a mass grave
> > as a victim of another terrorist attack?  Are you going to try to
> > exercise your freedom of speech from beyond the grave?
> >
> > I like Perry - he used to work for me back in the 90's, but he is
> > wrong about this.
> >
> > I know all of the cliches about freedom never being lost all at once,
> > and societies willing to trade freedom for security deserving neither
> > and having none (I know I butchered that one - my apologies to the
> > original author), and all of the other little jabs that liberals are
> > falling back on right now, but like him or not, there has not been
> > another attack on our homeland since 09/11.  Difficult decisions need
> > to be made from time to time, and Bush is making them.  I think it's
> > hysterical that most of the loudest of the loudmouths were strangely
> > silent when Clinton did many of the same things.
> >
> > Even with a government that is actively protecting us from these
> > terrorist scumbags, we in the USA are still the luckiest people on
> > Earth.  We've got it better than any other country on Earth.  If you
> > like some other place better, please feel free to move yourself  
> > there.
> >
> > JCP
> >
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