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Re: Gödel and kernel backdoors


From: mrx <mrx () propergander org uk>
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:00:33 +0100

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On 18/09/2010 20:51, Georgi Guninski wrote:
http://plus.maths.org/content/goumldel-and-limits-logic
Gödel and the limits of logic

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Another result that derives from Gödel's ideas is the demonstration that
no  program that does not alter a computer's operating system can detect
all programs that do. In other words, no program can find all the
viruses on your computer, unless it interferes with *and alters* the operating system.

Can software monitor, identify and log (measure) without interacting with and thus affecting the OS?
Perhaps this is the reason why mankind has not yet found a GUT.
Perhaps a paradox is all we have to work with.

- -- 
Mankind's systems are white sticks tapping walls.
Thanks Roy
http://www.propergander.org.uk
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