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Re: Snail mail vs. Email


From: Laurelai <laurelai () oneechan org>
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:09:43 -0500

On 10/12/2011 1:26 PM, Daniel Sichel wrote:
Well there is no push to make snail-mail encrypted and lets face it
most
peoples mailboxes don't have any sort of locking mechanisms and is
available to anyone with two hands and the malicious intent to steal
someones mail  however the US Gov needs a warrant to intercept your
physical mail, why does it being online somehow make it different?
What makes it different (and this is just me speaking, I don't really
know how others
feel or what current political thinking is on this)is that the internet
represents a new,
unregulated medium that can redefine some traditional standards and ways
of doing
Things in order to do them better.  For me, as a conservative, less
regulation an more personal responsibility is better.

I will say something probably a bit unusual, especially these days,
reasonable men may differ on this view. A very credible argument for
regulation can be made, I just keep coming back the reality that
virtually every regulated medium of communication becomes a point of
control. To shamelessly steal and warp a phrase, "The power to regulate
is the power to destroy."

I would prefer to be responsible for my own privacy and pit my skills
against the Feds at keeping it that way rather than "trust" them not to
abuse their access to my "protected" email.

I work in the phone business and we have CALEA requirements which
supposedly allows law enforcement to carry out their sanctioned wire
taps anonymously to protect suspects' right to privacy. I may be wrong,
but it seems pretty abusable (if that's a word) to me.  I do NOT want
that on the Internet.

Cheers,
Dan Sichel



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Right and the way to stop that is to require a warrant and a paper 
trail, if someone serves a warrant at your home you get a copy of the 
warrant and you can ensure they only get exactly what the warrant states 
and *nothing more* these warantless email seizures have no such limits 
or accountability.they can literally come in and take copies of all your 
emails and you will never know about it, and they can do it for 
practically any reason, if you encrypt your email they will just demand 
they keys/passwords with a court order and you can't really fight it 
without spending time in jail, the US Gov simply doesn't have enough 
accountability or transparency, that's why we *need* more legal 
protections, if cops kick down your door without a warrant then anything 
they find rightfully cant be used as evidence, the same thing should 
apply to electronic communications.

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