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Re: Snail mail vs. Email
From: Jeffrey Walton <noloader () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 07:26:31 -0400
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Kurt Buff <kurt.buff () gmail com> wrote:
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 22:11, Jeffrey Walton <noloader () gmail com> wrote:Sparta, as one of the first democracies, had it right. They put the public officials on trial when their term expired because they knew what Class A fuck-ups they were. Its funny how that lesson was lost to history.Sparta in the Classical age and earlier was not a democracy. They were a set of invaders who had enslaved the native Hellenes in the area (as opposed to buying slaves or capturing slaves in battle, which is what the other Hellenic city-states did), and which had kings and enforced military servitude from approximately ages 8 to 50 or so. And, actually, Athens, though it was the Western birthplace of democracy, free speech and all that, wasn't a very pretty society itself. Aside from the primitive state of technology, they were a religion- and superstition-bound society to a degree that most modern cultures would have difficulty comprehending.
I agree with the hypocrisy, and much hasn't changed with the superstition/religion bound society (the best I can tell). http://www.google.com/?q=early+democracies.
Not something I think we should emulate.
Unfortunately, we are emulating those past invaders (at least in the middle east). Jeff _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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