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Re: VPN provider helped track down alleged LulzSec member
From: adam <adam () papsy net>
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 10:45:33 -0500
"User location determines Judicial Jurisdiction - how is that irrelevant?" Jurisdiction in the prosecution of such crimes, yes. In the investigation itself, no. Which seems to be where all the confusion is coming from. If you use a service in the US to commit a crime, and that service is ordered by a court to turn over information about you, they're legally obligated to do so. The content (e.g. your location) of that information isn't relevant in terms of the court order - it only becomes relevant in the prosecution of whatever crime you've committed. What "glow" is suggesting is that if the service provider determined the user's location to be somewhere in Russia, that they could then tell the court "Sorry, but the user is located in a place that this court doesn't have jurisdiction" - which not only wouldn't work, but would also cause them to personally face punishment for violating a court order.
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