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Re: Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 11: ] How much time is appropriate for fixing
From: "Thor (Hammer of God)" <thor () hammerofgod com>
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:41:02 +0000
I replied all; the statement was to Guninski alone. Even if I didn't this is a mailing list and grammar or spelling don't matter. Note I won't mention your use of "proffering." Regardless, let's see if I understand you. You are saying one should not agree with someone who ascribes behavioral (our spelling) patterns to others based on their own character traits, yet you are telling him he "cannot possibly agree." It's OK for you to tell him what he can or can't believe in, but it's not OK for me to voice my own opinion? How exactly does that make you any different than I? Did Georgi find some bugs in software that anyone could have found a decade ago? Sure. And good for him. My point was the WAY he went about working with the vendor and disclosing it. Defend him all you like, but no one was helped in those cases, and many many people were hurt. This isn't "opinion," this is fact you can look up for yourself. Look at people like Michal Zalewski - he discovered god knows how many bugs in god knows how many browsers and he was professional about the whole thing. If you are actually arguing against the claim that disclosure is an ego-driven process (again, where purposefully and deliberately sought after) and are defending Georgi at the same time then all I can do is wish you luck with your life's perceptions. You are of course free to think what you want, how you want, and when you want - I'll just disagree with you. t On 7/10/12 3:40 PM, "paul.szabo () sydney edu au" <paul.szabo () sydney edu au> wrote:
Dear Mikhail,From: "Thor (Hammer of God)" <thor () hammerofgod com> To: Georgi Guninski <guninski () guninski com>, Stefan Kanthak <stefan.kanthak () nexgo de> Cc: "full-disclosure () lists grok org uk" <full-disclosure () lists grok org uk> I'm not contradicting myself at all - in fact, *you* are the exact type of person I'm talking about. You couldn't give a rat's ass about the industry or anyone but yourself. Nothing you have ever done has been "valuable" to anyone other than you; it has been completely self-serving egotistical bullshit.I completely agree with Thor. ...You cannot possibly agree with someone who addresses two people in the singular. You should not agree with someone who ascribes behaviourial patterns to others, based on his own character traits. Are you familiar with Georgi's work? Please look at his website before proffering opinions. Cheers, Paul Paul Szabo psz () maths usyd edu au http://www.maths.usyd.edu.au/u/psz/ School of Mathematics and Statistics University of Sydney Australia _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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