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Re: 2002 murder suspect located via MSN Map search
From: "Fergie" <fergdawg () netzero net>
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 20:42:53 GMT
Having said that (and well said, indeed), there are some crimes that simply by being accused of wrong-doing can mar someone's integrity forever in the court of public opinion. Take for instance the "The Affaire d'Outreau, Judicial Shipwreck" in France recently: [snip] The "Affaire d'Outreau" [pronounced doo-tro] was just a blip on the radar screen when I first read about it. Seventeen people were accused of child molesting in northern France and after a three-year investigation they came to trial in 2004. I had a hard time believing so many people, especially women, were involved in a ring of child molesters. It became clearer that some of the people were guilty-- as it finally turned out, two couples had been abusing their own children, and one had made wild accusations left and right to incriminate people who were not involved. Those innocent people now went through a waking nightmare for three or even four years. Their children were taken away, they were treated by the jailers as known child molesters, and the evidence that they were innocent was ignored. Right before Christmas, about two months ago, the twelve surviving accused in the d'Outreau case were acquitted of all charges. The French Minister of Justice then gave a press conference to apologize to the accused. At the time I mentioned the case in a short note at the bottom of a post. [snip] http://www.ruerude.com/2006/01/the_affaire_dou.html Not ethe use of the word 'surviving' in the account above -- some of the people accused of involvement killed themselves bacause of the shame of being accused of involvement. It was a travesty of jurisprudence. - ferg -- Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote: On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 12:16:51 CST, Paul Schmehl said:
So why did the suspect hang himself in prison? Didn't like the food?
In feudal Japan, hari-kiri (ritual self-disembowlment) was the proper response for losing face over much less important matters. And in today's society, an amazing number of people put a bullet through their head just because they get fired from their job and are looking at financial ruin. It's not at all surprising that getting arrested pushes some people over the edge while they're sitting in a jail cell for something they didn't do, with no idea how they were going to afford bail, much less a competent defense attorney (which can easily get into the hundreds of thousands of dollars very quickly), and knew that even if they *did* beat the rap they'd still be followed by whispers for the rest of their life... Suddenly, doing something creative with their belt starts looking reasonable.... If the guy hanged himself, it's not a confession of guilt (unless he left an actual signed confession) - it only proves he couldn't deal with the fact that he was accused.... -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg () netzero net or fergdawg () sbcglobal net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: 2002 murder suspect located via MSN Map search, (continued)
- Re: 2002 murder suspect located via MSN Map search Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 06)
- Re: 2002 murder suspect located via MSN Map search Colin Rognlie (Feb 06)
- Re: 2002 murder suspect located via MSN Map search Paul Schmehl (Feb 06)
- Re: 2002 murder suspect located via MSN Map search Axel Pettinger (Feb 06)
- Re: 2002 murder suspect located via MSN Map search Stephen J. Smoogen (Feb 05)
- Re: 2002 murder suspect located via MSN Map search Paul Schmehl (Feb 05)
- Re: 2002 murder suspect located via MSN Map search Richard Cox (Feb 06)
- Re: 2002 murder suspect located via MSN Map search Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 06)
- Re: 2002 murder suspect located via MSN Map search Stephen J. Smoogen (Feb 06)
- Re: 2002 murder suspect located via MSN Map search Paul Schmehl (Feb 07)