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Re: Anyone go to ShmooCon?
From: Nick FitzGerald <nick () virus-l demon co uk>
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:13:39 +1300
Roland Dobbins wrote:
Which was came first, the advisory or the talk?
Dunno, because I don't know when he made his presentation at ShmooCon. However, I _doubt_ he wrote the advisory he posted to Bugtraq _after_ he made the presentation -- he _may have_, but without any further information about the sequence of events, _I_ doubt it. Odds are he had the advisory ready to post (or even queued for (roughly) coordinated release with his presentation) before he made the presentation though...
In any event, I guess I just don't understand why you feel it necessary to attack Simple Nomad. ...
I was not attacking him. I was, however, questioning your (?) suggestion that it was "not premeditated" and a purely "off the cuff" or "throwaway" comment. If he wrote it in advance of the presentation, in the advisory -- as seems likely to me -- then his use of it in the presentation was _far_ from your characterization. He may have planned it to seem as if it was all very "spur of the moment" but then those are often the most carefully of orchestrated events.
... He does good work, and the community benefits from his work.
Did I say he doesn't? And please, is there a _necessary negation_ of "he can act like a media whore" attached to "he does good work"? Yes -- now I am suggesting his "throwaway" use of the term may have been less than accidental. Do you _really_ think that old Simple _doesn't_ understand the media's fascination with anything an "expert" (which he certainly is) tags as "virus-like"? C'mon... Regards, Nick FitzGerald _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: Anyone go to ShmooCon?, (continued)
- Re: Anyone go to ShmooCon? Nick FitzGerald (Jan 15)
- Re: Anyone go to ShmooCon? Roland Dobbins (Jan 15)
- Re: Anyone go to ShmooCon? Nick FitzGerald (Jan 15)
- Re: Anyone go to ShmooCon? Roland Dobbins (Jan 15)
- Re: Anyone go to ShmooCon? H D Moore (Jan 15)
- Re: Anyone go to ShmooCon? Roland Dobbins (Jan 15)
- Re[2]: Anyone go to ShmooCon? Pierre Vandevenne (Jan 15)
- Re: Anyone go to ShmooCon? Gadi Evron (Jan 15)
- Re: Anyone go to ShmooCon? Nick FitzGerald (Jan 15)
- Re: Anyone go to ShmooCon? Nick FitzGerald (Jan 15)
- Re: Anyone go to ShmooCon? Gadi Evron (Jan 15)
- Re: Anyone go to ShmooCon? Nick FitzGerald (Jan 15)