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Re: [privacy] First they came...


From: "Fergie" <fergdawg () netzero net>
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 18:35:42 GMT

Well said.

W.r.t. the first point: I won't be the one. And I have certainly
made it known that I will work to ensure that I will not have
any part, nor condone, the villifying of dissenters.

W.r.t. the second point: The phrase, itself, says all that needs
to be said. :-)

Cheers,

- ferg


-- Florian Weimer <fw () deneb enyo de> wrote:
* Fergie:

The Time Magazine variant (1989) of the famous poem attributed
to Martin Niemöller:

Well, this is quoted so regularly that I wonder if anybody is left to
come for me.  Apparently, everybody is busy imagining themselves as
victims.  But we computer folks protect the status quo.  We keep the
financial and communications infrastructure and all those databases
running, help law enforcement where necessary, and support the
political system in various ways.  It's a bit unrealistic to suggest
we won't be the people who wouldn't help to hunt down dissidents.
After all, they are just a couple of rows in an SQL database, aren't
they?

Secondly, the Latin proverb "Quid custodiet ipsos custodes?"

Juvenal originally used it in the opposite sense.  But the quote
reminds me of "Watchmen", which I highly recommend.

--
"Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson
 Engineering Architecture for the Internet
 fergdawg () netzero net or fergdawg () sbcglobal net
 ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/

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