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Re: [privacy] privacy Digest, Vol 3, Issue 19


From: "Lindsey, Ben J" <ben.lindsey () centerpointenergy com>
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 11:16:10 -0500

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The best part of the article:
[snip]
"Our clients have suffered concrete harm," Ann Beeson, the ACLU's associate legal director, told the court, saying 
lawyers now have to travel overseas to gather information they would have previously received on the phone and 
journalists are beginning to lose sources. 
[snip]

  I'm not sure about this, but I'd wager if we put it to a poll, most of us would want these lawyers and reporters 
phones tapped if they are calling known or suspected terrorists...  It really breaks my heart to hear that lawyers are 
having to bill time for this overseas travel too, that's gotta be a back-breaker, I'm surprised they are still in 
business.

But it gets even better:
[snip]
Nazih Hassan, a Lebanese-American, and a member of the ACLU, said the wiretapping had instilled fear in the Arab 
community. 
"There is such a blurry line between talking about the things you care about such as the war in Iraq or the situation 
in Lebanon and 'supporting terrorism' that I and many of my friends have just stopped talking on the phone," he told 
Reuters outside the court. 
[snip]

  Gosh, is that the blurry line between telling all your friends that you hate the war and wish it had never started 
(just fine with me, I'm not a big fan) vs. swapping info with your friends about where and when the next suicide 
bombing will be staged?  If it's the latter, I'd say its a pretty good idea to take that discussion underground...  But 
wait Mr. Hassan, if its so "blurry" to you, why are you running your trap about it in front of Reuters?

  I'm sure its not his fault for saying stupid things -- what else can you do when the ACLU wants a puppet these days?

- -bjl



Message: 5
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 04:17:01 GMT
From: "Fergie" <fergdawg () netzero net>
Subject: [privacy] Judge Defers Decision on U.S. Wiretap Suit
To: privacy () whitestar linuxbox org
Message-ID: <20060612.211746.28.168082 () webmail04 lax untd com>
Content-Type: text/plain

Via Reuters.

[snip]

A federal judge on Monday deferred making an immediate decision on a
request that the Bush administration's domestic eavesdropping program
be halted as a violation of law.

The American Civil Liberties Union, which filed the lawsuit 
in January,
asked U.S. District Judge Anna Diggs Taylor to stop the White House
from intercepting international phone calls and e-mails without a
warrant in its fight against terrorism, saying it violates Americans'
free speech and privacy rights.

[snip]

More:
http://go.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=technologyNews&st
oryID=12504031

- ferg


--
"Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson
 Engineering Architecture for the Internet
 fergdawg () netzero net or fergdawg () sbcglobal net
 ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/


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