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Re: Point of No Return? Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impo ssible
From: "Fergie" <fergdawg () netzero net>
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:46:32 GMT
The problem is (in addition to what you mention below) that, once a machine is compromised, it is simply no longer 'trustable' because there just too many ways for an attacker to install trojans/backdoors/etc. for future nefarious purposes. This isn't just a Windows issue -- that goes for any copmputer, period, IMO. I just found it interesting to hear someone echo that statement, given the current hostile situation/environment that we operate in these days. :-) - ferg -- "Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah" <rMslade () shaw ca> wrote:
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1945782,00.asp
Very interesting indeed. Until a few years ago, I was highly incensed at those who suggested you had to reformat and reinstall. It was always, in my experience, much easier to kill the beast and go on (with even the most fundamental level of knowledge of malware). (My first experience was a smallish post-secondary school that got some of their machines infected with Stoned, and blew the whole network off, re-installing all the software *and re-keying all the databases, including the library and all student data, by hand.*) What changed my mind was XP. Almost as soon as it came out I started running into situations where the virus had tangled itself so deeply into the guts of the system that you couldn't get it out. (Of course, it didn't help that once XP came out most people were using NTFS, and the good old tools of yesteryear were no good anymore.) [snip] -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg () netzero net or fergdawg () sbcglobal net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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