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Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month
From: Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com>
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 01:29:20 +0100 (BST)
On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:13:49 CDT, Gadi Evron said:http://www.heise-security.co.uk/articles/77440 Okay, so, who wants to shout writing viruses is bad, first?Releasing viruses is bad. Keeping a stockpile of viruses under conditions that they may escape is bad - and it doesn't matter if you wrote them or collected them. You may have collected a rare virus that hasn't been seen yet by A/V signature writers - or you may write viruses that intentionally are detected by current scanners. So the moral injunction is to not release undetectable viruses, no matter what source. Writing a non-released virus? That's a black box by definition, and morally neutral.
We still don't know that they wrote any viruses. Since they created 5,500 files, they must have used some automated program, and I really doubt that they tested each of these 5,500 files to check that they really were viruses. In order to assess their test, we have to get a copy of those 5,500 files. So, here's a question - are they willing to release them? If yes, then the "black box" isn't black any more. If no, then no-one can tell whether they did a valid test or not. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month, (continued)
- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Nick FitzGerald (Aug 29)
- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Dude VanWinkle (Aug 29)
- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Nick FitzGerald (Aug 29)
- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Drsolly (Aug 30)
- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Blue Boar (Aug 29)
- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Nick FitzGerald (Aug 29)
- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 29)
- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Dude VanWinkle (Aug 29)
- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Blue Boar (Aug 29)
- RE: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Nick FitzGerald (Aug 29)
- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Dude VanWinkle (Aug 29)
- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Drsolly (Aug 30)
- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Blue Boar (Aug 30)
- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Drsolly (Aug 30)
- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Blue Boar (Aug 30)
- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Drsolly (Aug 30)
- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Blue Boar (Aug 30)
- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Drsolly (Aug 30)