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Re: FW: Windows Live and Privacy
From: "Brian Loe" <knobdy () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 14:49:01 -0600
On 12/6/06, Bruce Ediger <eballen1 () qwest net> wrote:
Some philosophical objections to copyright also exist: http://libertariannation.org/a/f31l1.html I doubt those will make much impression on you. The way you phrase your question seems to indicate that you believe that "IP rights" should exist to protect the ideas that you and/or other people come up with. That's a false basis for reasoning from, at least in terms of copyright law. The basis of copyright law is to get people to disclose ideas by giving them a short period of state-enforced monopoly, during which the inventor can extract monopoly rents. That's a whole lot different than the concept of intellectual *property*. Ideas and concepts basically aren't "property" in the sense that a car or a house or a factory building are property. Your car can be stolen, depriving you of the use of it. However, if someone copies my ideas about writing a checker-playing program, neither I nor my program are deprived of the use of those ideas.
They made an impression on me the first time I read of them, many years ago. I've read Hayek and my "favorite founding father" was Jefferson, who Hayek also appreciated (http://rack1.ul.cs.cmu.edu/jefferson/ and one with the candle reference http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/001115). Not sure where you might have pulled your impression of me from, though. I'm arguing against copyrights in this particular discussion - but also allowing the need for some IP laws. My ideas on copyright law do not stray too far from those of the old white slave owners. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: FW: Windows Live and Privacy, (continued)
- Re: FW: Windows Live and Privacy Brian Loe (Dec 05)
- Re: FW: Windows Live and Privacy Drsolly (Dec 06)
- Re: FW: Windows Live and Privacy Nick FitzGerald (Dec 06)
- Re: FW: Windows Live and Privacy Drsolly (Dec 06)
- Re: FW: Windows Live and Privacy Brian Loe (Dec 05)
- Re: FW: Windows Live and Privacy Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah (Dec 04)
- Re: FW: Windows Live and Privacy Brian Loe (Dec 05)
- Re: FW: Windows Live and Privacy Drsolly (Dec 05)
- Re: FW: Windows Live and Privacy Brian Loe (Dec 05)
- Re: FW: Windows Live and Privacy Bruce Ediger (Dec 06)
- Re: FW: Windows Live and Privacy Brian Loe (Dec 06)
- Re: FW: Windows Live and Privacy Richard M. Smith (Dec 06)
- Re: FW: Windows Live and Privacy der Mouse (Dec 06)
- Re: FW: Windows Live and Privacy Richard M. Smith (Dec 06)
- Re: FW: Windows Live and Privacy Drsolly (Dec 06)
- RE: FW: Windows Live and Privacy Drsolly (Dec 04)
- Re: RE: FW: Windows Live and Privacy der Mouse (Dec 05)