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Re: Bad (Insecure) Business Decisons [Was: Re: IPv6, C&C (not bot nets, coffe and cats)]
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 00:17:13 -0400
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 03:22:06 -0000, Dave Paris said:
It's not the meter reading portion of the links that scare me as much as remote access to substations, grid interconnect points, etc. I've seen systems as Ferg describes below and utterly simplistic dial-in, unauthenticated systems... no dialback, zippo. Utterly insane.
But.. but... *nobody* could possibly guess the phone number, or know what arcane commands are needed. And what hacker would possibly be interested in a system so backward it still needed a dial-up modem to get into? Come on, get with the program, the movie "War Games" is *so* 1983.....
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