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Re: What Happened to The 56 Men Who Signed the Declarationof Independence ?
From: "Dennis Henderson" <hendomatic () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 00:09:59 -0500
On 7/6/07, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:
On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:14:43 CDT, Brian Loe said: > Next you'll tell me Lincoln didn't actually free all of the slaves! Let's look at the actual text, shall we? "That on the first day of January, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, all persons held as slaves within any State or designated part of a State, the people whereof shall then be in rebellion against the United States, shall be then, thenceforward, and forever free; So he didn't free any slaves in those areas that weren't in rebellion, and in the Confederate area, the proclamation was worthless as anything except toilet paper, since they were in rebellion and not following anything Lincoln might have proclaimed. Now, as you were saying?
Such two dimensional thinkin big V....
From your favorite site, Wikipedia..
Near the end of the war, abolitionists were concerned that the Emancipation Proclamation would be construed solely as a war act and thus no longer apply once fighting ended. They were also increasingly anxious to secure the freedom of all slaves, not just those freed by the Emancipation Proclamation. Thus pressed, Lincoln staked a large part of his 1864 presidential campaign on a constitutional amendment to abolish slavery uniformly throughout the United States. Lincoln's campaign was bolstered by separate votes in both Maryland and Missouri to abolish slavery in those states. Maryland's new constitution abolishing slavery took effect in November 1864. Winning re-election, Lincoln pressed the lame duck<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lame_duck_%28politics%29> 38th Congress <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty-eighth_United_States_Congress>to pass the proposed amendment immediately rather than wait for the incoming 39th Congress<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty-ninth_United_States_Congress>to convene. In January 1865, Congress sent to the state legislatures for ratification what became the 13th Amendment<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution>, banning slavery in all U.S. states <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._state>and territories. The amendment was ratified by the legislatures of enough states by December 6 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_6>, 1865<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1865>. There were about 40,000 slaves in Kentucky and 1,000 in Delaware who were liberated. So _you_ were saying?
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