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RE: What kind of Pentagon computers were hacked by the Chinese military?


From: "Joel R. Helgeson" <joel () helgeson com>
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 05:07:27 -0500

I hate crap like this... that people
1) Assume it was the military
2) It was done by the Chinese at all

China just had a few million people get online. You can bet that the vast
portion are running pirated windows software, are not getting updates, and
are therefore prime targets for hijacking and setting up of remote proxy.  I
see Chinese proxy's for sale in IRC all the time, and it's the Russians and
Brazilians that are selling them... not their fellow Chinamen...

Then people use this to justify further fears of China.  Give me a break.
China is FAR more dependent on us than we are of them.  If our economy
falters, they'll tank. They have enough citizens of theirs in this country
at any given time such that if the REAL Chinese military DID want to
actually hack into the Pentagon, they sure as HELL would be able to cover
their tracks back to Beijing.

I just had to add my 2 cents.

Regards,

Joel Helgeson

-----Original Message-----
From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On
Behalf Of Sean Donelan
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 5:43 PM
To: funsec () linuxbox org
Subject: Re: [funsec] What kind of Pentagon computers were hacked by the
Chinese military?

On Mon, 3 Sep 2007, rms () computerbytesman com wrote:
Lieutenant General Robert Elder, senior Air Force officer for cyberspace
issues, recently joked that North Korea "must only have one laptop" to
make
the more serious point that every potential adversary - except Pyongyang -
routinely scans US computer networks.

What do other countries think of "attacks" originating from US IP 
addresses?  Almost every measurement indicates US IP addresses are the 
source of more attacks on more parts of the Internet than any other 
country. How successful are US crackers at penetrating computers around 
the world?

If you were in charge of cybersecurity for <Insert country name here>'s
military, who would you be worrying about?

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