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Re: [privacy] A few thoughts, well spoken.
From: "Brian Loe" <knobdy () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 10:19:37 -0500
On 9/11/07, Alex Eckelberry <AlexE () sunbelt-software com> wrote:
A central conservative tenant is: Governments are not to be trusted. Yet conservatives are willy-nilly promoting trust of the government. We really don't need to wreck civil liberties in order to protect our country.
I have no doubt, especially based on our off-list discussions, that you are a conservative. However I think you should add something to your argument. What Bush has done is nothing new, either to the Presidency or the Republican Party. In fact, I'm not sure why we are still talking in terms of parties - I can't see a difference between the two. Their only tenant appears to be: get elected and then get re-elected. They're following it fine. Bush one was not a good president for civil liberties (Ruby Ridge, AWB, NAFTA, etc..). Clinton was absolutely HORRIBLE for civil liberties (Waco, AWB, NAFTA) AND foreign policy (Israel, his various wag-the-dog "wars"). Bush two has simply taken all of it another step, the next step. _______________________________________________ privacy mailing list privacy () whitestar linuxbox org http://www.whitestar.linuxbox.org/mailman/listinfo/privacy
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