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Re: Banned hyperlinks could cost you $11, 000 a day (in Australia)
From: Gregory Hicks <ghicks () hicks-net net>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:48:53 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:59:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [funsec] Banned hyperlinks could cost you $11, 000 a day
(in Australia)
From: Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster () gmail com> To: Gregory Hicks <ghicks () hicks-net net> Cc: funsec () linuxbox org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Gregory Hicks <ghicks () hicks-net net> wrote:"Perfect Law" is what it is. Ordinary folk can violate it without knowing they have broken the law. TWGs can come and get you at their leisure - because you have broken the law."Prefect law"? Did you make that up?
Nope! I remember reading it somewhere. You don't think I'd make something like that up, do you? Found it in the Risks Digest, Vol 25, Issue 48... Quoting: The Perfect Law: Re: Dangerous Precedence Set <Martin Ward <martin () gkc org uk>> Tue, 9 Dec 2008 11:34:02 +0000 (Re: Federal Criminal Charges for Violation of Commercial Online ToS?)
From the government's point of view, the "Perfect Law" is one which
everyone has broken. With this law, anyone the government does not like (for whatever reason) can be arrested and imprisoned.
From the citizen's point of view, such a law means the end of the rule
of law. You are now living in a tyranny: any criticism of the government could land you in jail with no recourse. "But," you protest, "I haven't violated the Terms of Service of any web site!" What about that government-run web site which just about everyone in the country is required to sign up for. On page 16 of the voluminous Terms of Service is a poorly-worded note to the effect that anyone who criticises any action of the government is in violation of the Terms of Service of this web site. martin () gkc org uk http://www.cse.dmu.ac.uk/~mward/ End quoting... The article train was discussing the mother that portrayed herself as a teenage boy and used that to "bully" the girl. The girl committed suicide. They took the mother to court in Los Angeles because that is where the company's servers are located. (The mother did not follow the TOS for the website in that she 'lied' about her age, gender, et al...) Regards, Gregory Hicks
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