Re: C-level execs ignorant of Web 2.0 dangers

["Hubbard, Dan" <dhubbard () websense com>]

Email is a bastion of badness. Do you block access to *all* email? How about IM? Or the Web in general?

My .02: The debate should be if the risk outweighs the benefit. My opinion is that in most cases the answer is no. 
There is a lot of benefit to companies to open these up. Yes, of course they need to invest in security to protect 
against the problem but that is no different than other areas, it's just a new vector.









-----Original Message-----
From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Tomas L. Byrnes
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 1:56 PM
To: Dan Kaminsky
Cc: funsec () linuxbox org; rMslade () shaw ca
Subject: Re: [funsec] C-level execs ignorant of Web 2.0 dangers

When I've explained to the users how Facebook, Myspace and other such
sites are ways for malware authors to "drive by" them, I've had no
resistance to blocking them. Now, it helps that in the most recent case,
they had actually been infected using just that vector.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Kaminsky [mailto:dan () doxpara com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 11:06 PM
> To: Tomas L. Byrnes
> Cc: <rMslade () shaw ca>; <funsec () linuxbox org>
> Subject: Re: [funsec] C-level execs ignorant of Web 2.0 dangers
>
> I've been informed, very off the record, that large companies that
> block Facebook at work have serious employee retention and acquisition
> problems directly because of it.  I'm dead serious.
>
>
>
> On May 28, 2009, at 6:49 AM, "Tomas L. Byrnes" <tomb () byrneit net>
wrote:
> > C - level parsed correctly means Clue MINUS level. Since level is the
> > highest in the company, you do the math.
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-
> > > bounces () linuxbox org]
> > > On Behalf Of Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah
> > > Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 3:49 PM
> > > To: funsec () linuxbox org
> > > Subject: [funsec] C-level execs ignorant of Web 2.0 dangers
http://www.itworldcanada.com/Pages/Docbase/ViewArticle.aspx?id=idgml-
> > > 9e7f4ffd-
> > > 70b7-4120&Portal=448d158c-d857-4785-b759-ffa1c005933c&sub=7345
> > >
> > > C-level executives are pushing for greater access to social
> > > networking
> > > sites and
> > > facilities, while even IT managers and security specialists are
> > > unprepared to deal
> > > with the full range of risks from this type of activity.
> > >
> > > In order to get some traction with senior management on this issue,
> > > you
> > > might
> > > want to remind them that, when they take off with funds they've
> > obtained
> > > via
> > > fraud, it's best not to post boasts on Facebook:
> http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/web/2009/05/25/1243103468196.html
> > > ======================  (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer)
> > > rslade () vcn bc ca     slade () victoria tc ca
> > > rslade () computercrime org
> > > The real problem is in the hearts and minds of men. It is not a
> > > problem of physics but of ethics. It is easier to denature
> > > plutonium than to denature the evil from the spirit of man.
> > >                                                  - Albert Einstein
> > > http://victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm
> > > http://blog.isc2.org/isc2_blog/slade/index.html
> > > http://twitter.com/rslade
> > > http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/
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