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Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcast pop-ups)


From: "Larry Seltzer" <larry () larryseltzer com>
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22:29:05 -0400

Many of us have agreed that, for competitive reasons, it's not possible
for ISPs to lock infected users out of a network. I'd like to suggest a
crazy idea for your reaction: A law governing ISPs that sets rules for
these situations. It sets rules for how they can and should contact
users about suspected infections and *requires* that they isolate such
users until that user remediates their systems(s), and sets rules for
how that is determined.

The point of this would be to protect ISPs from the competitive impact
of taking those users off the network: If they can't just take their
business elsewhere, to a less-responsible ISP, then they will have more
of an incentive to fix their problems.

One could argue that such rules would be devastating to small ISPs (time
to call Brett Glass; is he on this list?) On the one hand perhaps we
could say (not sure if this is legal) that it only applies to large
ISPs, perhaps those who provide their own physical infrastructure to the
user (fiber, cable, etc.).On the other hand, such a distinction would
create an incentive for smaller ISPs to have lax security in order to
scoop up infected refugees from the large ones. (Think virual leper
colonies.) Perhaps there's a better way to deal with this, or perhaps
the answer is just that smaller ISPs will suffer.

It's possible, in fact, that the ISPs who took customer service the most
seriously would do well under such a policy. The ones who don't help
users would suffer the worst.

I'm thinking out loud here; I don't necessarily believe in this as a
matter of policy. Certainly it would be highly disruptive to users and
some thought would have to go into how it was implemented. Many users,
for instance those still running Win98, really can't be secured anymore
and may be effectively banished. And I don't like the idea of telling
people what they can and can't run, but that's where the policy might
actually head.

On the other hand, if you want to clean up the consumer ISP networks in
the US, this would seem to be a way to get a lot of it done. Not perfect
of course, but it gives users a real incentive to keep their systems
clean. Local consultants and security software companies should make out
like bandits.

Larry Seltzer
Contributing Editor, PC Magazine
larry_seltzer () ziffdavis com 
http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/


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