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Re: "Russian Police And Internet Registry Accused Of AidingCybercrime"


From: Dan White <dwhite () olp net>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:23:02 -0500

On 21/10/09 18:56 -0400, der Mouse wrote:
Nor should they, I think, per se.  It's when they involve abuse of
their assigned resources that the RIR has to step up and enforce the
responsibility that goes with authority.  Independent of whether that
abuse happens to be legal, or not, in any jurisdiction.

Or, of course, not do so, and watch the abuses grow until they kill the
goose that's laying such golden eggs, instead of spending a few eggs to
ensure the goose's long-term survival.

There's not really a whole lot that RIRs can do about abuse, once it's out
of the bag. RIRs just sign contracts with assignees and hand out numeric
resources to them (ASNs and addresses). It's up to transit providers and
ISPs to determine how those resources get used.

For instance, here's a list of address blocks being advertised that have
not been properly allocated via the IANA/RIR process:

http://thyme.apnic.net/rviews/data-add-IANA

There are probably some spammers in the list who just picked out a block
out of the air and started advertising it.

IANA can't do anything, because they just have relationships with the RIRs
(unless they have a legacy relationship with an assignee from when before
RIRs existed).

RIRs have contracts with assignees, but don't have much of a stick to poke
at the tier-1 transits - transit providers are probably RIR customers, but
RIRs don't get in the business of telling transits how to route traffic.
That's as a function they don't have the technical expertise or legal
right to oversee.

The point at which RIRs *do* need to do something is when there is a
request for resources. If they don't take due diligence is determining the
validity of those requests, they open themselves to lawsuits from ISPs who
are denied resources, such as when IPv4 resources start to deplete.

-- 
Dan White
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