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Re: climate gate and programming bugs
From: seclists <seclists () bigpond com>
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:25:17 +1000
Well, I'm given to wonder how affordable is defined. Short term convenience versus medium term extinction? Yeh, convenience is important. Sounds like a good bet to me, at least we will no longer have silly debates over the reality of a warming planet. On 11/12/09 07:50, Larry Seltzer wrote:
Anybody would prefer an affordable Tesla. The problem is that they're not, and they won't be any time soon. Do you think the solution is to make gasoline-based cars unaffordable as well? Larry Seltzer Contributing Editor, PC Magazine larry_seltzer () ziffdavis com http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/ -----Original Message----- From: Michael Collins [mailto:mcollins () aleae com] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:32 PM To: Dan Kaminsky Cc: Larry Seltzer; funsec Subject: Re: [funsec] climate gate and programming bugs But it's so much more *fun* to protect current business models and outmoded energy production techniques rather than grab a brave new future, Dan. Seriously, I don't understand, even apart from the climate change issue while people are so happy to keep sending money to the custodians of the two shrines and continue the operation of petroleum cracking plants. Those bastards stink like three graves invading your nasal cavity. I appreciate the sweet pickup of a nice V8 as the next man, but I'll happily buy a Tesla when they're affordable. On Dec 9, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Dan Kaminsky wrote:On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Larry Seltzer <larry () larryseltzer com> wrote:The reality is that for a whole bunch of reasons, a lot of stuffjust isn't available. If you want it, if you want to reimplement it, you get documentation in the form of a paper showing how to achieve what is claimed. Is the paper enough? Sometimes it is, yeah. But always? Even often? No, not at all. That's as may be. If we're expected to impose massive taxes and regulations on the economy based on this supposedly settled science we need to expect more in the way of proof. It's a talking point. Delay, delay, delay, ignore reality when it's inconvenient. The scientific consensus around climate change is *overwhelming*. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.Mike Collins mcollins () aleae com _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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Current thread:
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs, (continued)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs seclists (Dec 09)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs Robert Graham (Dec 09)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs Larry Seltzer (Dec 09)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs Dan Kaminsky (Dec 09)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs Larry Seltzer (Dec 09)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs Dan Kaminsky (Dec 09)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs Michael Collins (Dec 10)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs Larry Seltzer (Dec 10)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs Michael Collins (Dec 10)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs Larry Seltzer (Dec 10)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs seclists (Dec 10)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs Larry Seltzer (Dec 10)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs Michael Collins (Dec 11)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs chris (Dec 11)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs Larry Seltzer (Dec 09)