Re: Here We Go Again: Internet 'Drivers Licenses'

["Tomas L. Byrnes" <tomb () byrneit net>]

Isn't that what the TPM was about? Didn't we all recognize that as a way
to make sure OSS couldn't run on hardware without paying MS or someone
in the ecosystem for signing the binary?



> -----Original Message-----
> From: rick wesson [mailto:rick () support-intelligence com]
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 8:37 PM
> To: Tomas L. Byrnes
> Cc: Paul Ferguson; funsec
> Subject: Re: [funsec] Here We Go Again: Internet 'Drivers Licenses'
>
> If you want to subvert the "internet drivers license" meme, insist
that
> it is applications and hardware that should have the drivers license.
>
> Inform that its not a people problem, but and identity problems around
> applications and hardware.
>
> Use the "drivers license" meme as it has momentum, just divert it from
> people to software.
>
> -rick
>
>
> Tomas L. Byrnes wrote:
> > Well, the alternative would be for Craig and his company to pay some
> > attention to the quality of their software, but that would cost some
> > serious money.
> >
> > So, much more useful for them to divert attention from the genesis
of
> > the whole problem: their OS; and let governments clean it up, all
> while,
> > naturally, making the barrier to entry for competitors to his
company
> > much higher.
> >
> > As long as you understand that the senior execs of US Publicly
traded
> > companies parse Milton Friedman's famous dictum to suit their
> personal
> > (lack of) morality:
> >
> > The full dictum is (their referring to the shareholders): "That
> > responsi-bility is to conduct the business in accordance with their
> > desires, which generally will be to make as much money as possible
> while
> > con-forming to the basic rules of the society, both those embodied
in
> > law and those embodied in ethical custom." Milton Friedman, New York
> > Times Magazine, September 13, 1970
> >
> > http://www.colorado.edu/studentgroups/libertarians/issues/friedman-
> soc-r
> > esp-business.html
> >
> > Generally, they paraphrase that to be "maximize shareholder value",
> > sometimes "within the limits of the Law", by which they tend to mean
> > whatever you can get away with for a cost of lawsuit that is less
> than
> > the cost of doing the right thing.
> >
> > You will note that Friedman had a much broader view: that they
> conform
> > to the basic rules of society " both those embodied in law and those
> > embodied in ethical custom."
> >
> > However, you will find precious few captains of industry of the last
> 30
> > years operate on a principle more elevated than: "You'll be gone,
> I'll
> > be gone, I got mine".
> >
> > Craig Mundie is just an apologist for his Uncle Fester lookalike
> boss:
> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/07/13/ballmer_is_fester_and_we/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-
> bounces () linuxbox org]
> > > On Behalf Of Paul Ferguson
> > > Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 4:50 PM
> > > To: funsec
> > > Subject: [funsec] Here We Go Again: Internet 'Drivers Licenses'
> > The meme that seemingly will not die -- Craig Mundie, chief research
> > and
> > strategy officer for Microsoft, mentions it again:
> >
> > http://rawstory.com/2010/01/agency-calls-global-cyberwarfare-treaty-
> > drivers
> > -license-web-users/
> >
> > Enjoy!
> >
> > - ferg
> >
> > >
> --
> "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson
>  Engineering Architecture for the Internet
>  fergdawgster(at)gmail.com
>  ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/
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