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Re: big brother at school
From: Dan Kaminsky <dan () doxpara com>
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:35:27 -0500
"In loco parentis" tends to be pretty powerful, but you know what's even stronger? Castle doctrine. It wasn't just the kid that got violated, it wasn't even particularly the kid that got hit. The school dropped a camera into the parent's home. "It's OK, I was just trying to secretly take pictures of your kid in his bedroom" isn't exactly the greatest defense the world has ever seen. On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Benjamin Brown <optikali () gmail com> wrote:
Just something to chew on: A number of court decisions (press me harder and I can search for the titles) rule in favor of the administration of public schools in cases that would have otherwise been seen a pure violation of a student's rights. These cases often invoke an argument of In loco parentis for the administration. Though in every case I have read the rulings concerned actions taken on school grounds or within close proximity. This case involves school property (the laptop), but occurs at the students home. I am curious how this shakes out and what the court ruling (and inevitable appeal ruling) will say. My 2 dinars =) -Ben On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah <rMslade () shaw ca> wrote:Date sent: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:28:13 -0600 From: RandallM <randallm () fidmail com>http://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/17/school-used-student.htmland http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/02/18/24789.htm "A federal class action claims a suburban school district has been spying on students and families through the "indiscriminant use of and ability to remotely activate the webcams incorporated into each laptop issued to students," without the knowledge or consent of students or parents. The named plaintiffs say they learned that Big Brother was in their home when an assistant principal told their son that the school district knew he `was engaged in improper behavior in his home, and cited as evidence a photograph from the webcam embedded in minor plaintiff's personal laptop issued by the school district.'" Always possible that the allegations are wrong or overstated, but, on the face of it, sounds like this school district could be in very serious trouble ... (Cue comments about protecting children, and being willing to give up personal freedoms for a worthy cause, etc ... ) ====================== (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rslade () vcn bc ca slade () victoria tc ca rslade () computercrime org What you ... call a poor signal-to-noise ratio is the 'glue' that holds a community together, that lets us recognize one another as people rather than roles. - Anton Aylward victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm blog.isc2.org/isc2_blog/slade/index.html http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ http://twitter.com/NoticeBored http://twitter.com/rslade _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list._______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: big brother at school, (continued)
- Re: big brother at school Benjamin Brown (Feb 22)
- Re: big brother at school Vaughn, Randal L. (Feb 22)
- Re: big brother at school Chris Boyd (Feb 22)
- Re: big brother at school Rich Kulawiec (Feb 23)
- Re: big brother at school chris (Feb 23)
- Re: big brother at school Rich Kulawiec (Feb 25)
- Re: big brother at school Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 25)
- Re: big brother at school der Mouse (Feb 25)
- Re: big brother at school Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah (Feb 25)
- Re: big brother at school Buhrmaster, Gary (Feb 25)
- Re: big brother at school Dan Kaminsky (Feb 18)
- Re: big brother at school Joel Esler (Feb 18)
- Re: big brother at school Tomas L. Byrnes (Feb 18)
- Re: big brother at school Dave Paris (Feb 18)
- Re: big brother at school Benjamin Brown (Feb 18)
- Re: big brother at school Blue Boar (Feb 18)