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Re: big brother at school
From: der Mouse <mouse () rodents-montreal org>
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:00:31 -0500 (EST)
1. Surely any competent thief, on bagging one of these laptops, would begin by making sure the computer was disconnected from all networks (perhaps turning off the wireless via a hardware switch, if available) and then reloading the software, starting with the operating system.
I think you're assuming more computer competence on the part of the thief than is justified. Most thieves, I suspect, are more interested in fencing it than in doing anything else with it, possibly excepting turning it on to satisfy the fence that it works (FWVO "works"). The set of people who steal laptops to use them, while doubtless nonempty, is probably small enough to be statistically ignorable. (Industrial spies might be another exception, but I can't see high-school student laptops in general being tempting targets for industiral spies - though the particular laptops associated with the children of execs at the victim company, say, might be.)
Poof goes the remote webcam access that putatively had something to do with recovering stolen systems.
Yes. But, again, you're assuming something unjustified: that the thief will be aware of the risk and be competent to mitigate it. Furthermore, even expert sysadmins make mistakes; one mistake can easily leave the camera working just fine. (I recall reading of one stolen laptop that was recovered precisely because its owner had set up its camera to take pictures and upload them somewhere....) /~\ The ASCII Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse () rodents-montreal org / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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