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Re: anybody here from facebook?
From: Rich Kulawiec <rsk () gsp org>
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 06:22:26 -0400
On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 08:14:21AM -0700, Wim Lewis wrote:
It's annoying, but is it spam?
Absolutely yes: it fully complies with the canonical definition of spam: unsolicited bulk email Note that this definition does not specify (and this is quite deliberate): messages all sent with same putative sender information messages all sent to the same recipient messages all sent with the same salient content messages all sent at once messages sent during a particular period of time messages whose bulk nature is immediately evident messages with any particular kind of content among a number of other things. This set of omissions is frequently questioned by novices (and is often disputed by spammers), but it's necessary; if these were specified, then abusers could argue that their abuse isn't spam because (for example) it wasn't all sent within a certain time window. Thus, in this particular case: - these notices are clearly email - they are clearly unsolicited *by the recipients*; of course the wishes of the sender don't matter a whit - they are clearly sent in bulk Case closed, period, full stop. We need not concern ourselves with irrelevant details like the content, or the forged sender (which is also abusive, but that abuse issue is orthogonal to this one), or the privacy issues involved in harvesting address books, or any of that. These are all interesting points, but none of them change the indisputable fact that Facebook is spamming. Note that Facebook, like other spammers, frequently tries to foist off responsibility for its abusive activity on its users: while certainly they bear some measure of responsibility for handing over information to Facebook, the bottom line is that this spam comes from Facebook's mail servers on Facebook's network, therefore it's Facebook's spam. ---Rsk _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Current thread:
- anybody here from facebook? Paul Vixie (May 04)
- Re: anybody here from facebook? Rich Kulawiec (May 04)
- Re: anybody here from facebook? Wim Lewis (May 04)
- Re: anybody here from facebook? Gadi Evron (May 04)
- Re: anybody here from facebook? Chris Boyd (May 05)
- Re: anybody here from facebook? Rich Kulawiec (May 05)
- Re: anybody here from facebook? Paul Vixie (May 05)
- Re: anybody here from facebook? Gadi Evron (May 04)