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Re: How heavy is a chip?
From: Dave Paris <dparis () w3works com>
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:54:47 +0000
o_O let's see .. nope. weighing is a practical impossibility due to manufacturing variances being larger than the weight of circuitry. Visa Fail. If if manufacturing tolerances are sufficiently tight, that'd require a damn sensitive scale to detect some very small circuit additions! The shimming thing is just plain scary. On 7/22/2010 12:52 AM, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah wrote:
Interesting juxtaposition of news items. A week or so ago, Visa recommended weighing card readers, in order to detect those that had been tampered with. http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Visa-recommends-weighing- card-readers-to-detect-tampering-1035293.html A couple of days later, saw a report on the latest ATM skimming scam: shimming. This is when the bad guys insert their own chip, that sits on top of the contact pad for "chip and pin" cards: http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/63544 ====================== (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rslade () vcn bc ca slade () victoria tc ca rslade () computercrime org An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true. victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm blog.isc2.org/isc2_blog/slade/index.html http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ http://www.infosecbc.org/links http://twitter.com/rslade _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: How heavy is a chip?, (continued)
- Re: How heavy is a chip? Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah (Jul 22)
- Re: How heavy is a chip? Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 22)
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- Re: How heavy is a chip? Joel Esler (Jul 22)
- Re: How heavy is a chip? Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah (Jul 22)
- Re: How heavy is a chip? Randal T. Rioux (Jul 23)
- Re: How heavy is a chip? Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah (Jul 22)
- Re: How heavy is a chip? Ned Fleming (Jul 22)
- Re: How heavy is a chip? Nick FitzGerald (Jul 22)
- Re: How heavy is a chip? Ned Fleming (Jul 23)
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