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IP: Friendly fire and related sagas


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 14:08:37 -0500


Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 10:27:33 PST
From: "Peter G. Neumann" <neumann () csl sri com>
To: Dave () farber net
Subject: Friendly fire and related sagas
Cc: Lauren () vortex com


  [You'll love this from Col. D.G. Swinford, USMC, Ret. and history buff.
  You really have to dig to get this kind of ringside seat to history.
  (Original source unknown.  Reformatted for readability by PGN.)]

1. The first German serviceman killed in WW II was killed by the Japanese
(China, 1937), the first American serviceman killed was killed by the
Russians (Finland 1940), the highest ranking American killed was Lt. Gen.
Lesley McNair, killed by the US Army Air Corps.  So much for allies.

2. The youngest US serviceman was 12 year old Calvin Graham, USN.  He was
wounded and given a Dishonorable Discharge for lying about his age.  (His
benefits were later restored by act of Congress)

3. At the time of Pearl Harbor the top US Navy command was Called CINCUS
(pronounced "sink us"), the shoulder patch of the US Army's 45th Infantry
division was the Swastika, and Hitler's private train was named "Amerika."
All three were soon changed for PR purposes.

4. More US servicemen died in the Air Corps than the Marine Corps.  While
completing the required 30 missions your chance of being killed was 71%.

5. Generally speaking there was no such thing as an average fighter pilot.
You were either an ace or a target.  For instance Japanese ace Hiroyoshi
Nishizawa shot down over 80 planes.  He died while a passenger on a cargo
plane.

6. It was a common practice on fighter planes to load every 5th round with a
tracer round to aid in aiming.  This was a mistake.  Tracers had different
ballistics so (at long range) if your tracers were hitting the target, 80%
of your rounds were missing.  Worse yet tracers instantly told your enemy he
was under fire and from which direction.  Worst of all was the practice of
loading a string of tracers at the end of the belt to tell you that you were
out of ammo.  This was definitely not something you wanted to tell the
enemy.  Units that stopped using tracers saw their success rate nearly
double and their loss rate go down.

7. When allied armies reached the Rhine the first thing men did was pee in
it.  This was pretty universal from the lowest private to Winston Churchill
(who made a big show of it) and Gen. Patton (who had himself photographed in
the act).

8. German Me-264 bombers were capable of bombing New York City but it wasn't
worth the effort.

9. German submarine U-120 was sunk by a malfunctioning toilet.

10. Among the first "Germans" captured at Normandy were several Koreans.
They had been forced to fight for the Japanese Army until they were captured
by the Russians and forced to fight for the Russian Army until they were
captured by the Germans and forced to fight for the German Army until they
were captured by the US Army.

11. Following a massive naval bombardment 35,000 US and Canadian troops
stormed ashore at Kiska, in the Aleutian Islands.  21 troops were killed in
the firefight. It would have been worse if there had been any Japanese on
the island.

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