more on ICANN ordered by Illinois court to suspend spamhaus.org

[David Farber <dave () farber net>]

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From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com>
Date: October 7, 2006 12:21:46 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Cc: lauren () vortex com
Subject: Re: [IP] ICANN ordered by Illinois court to suspend  
spamhaus.org


Dave,

Here's a thought question for us all.  If spamhaus.org loses its
domain name (and let's assume any other names they tried to obtain),
what's to stop them from operating on an IP address basis only?

Spamhaus has a large, dedicated, and mostly technically adept user
base.  I suspect that most of their users would be able to quickly
substitute an IP address for a domain name in the appropriate
configurations.  Word about the change, and any related future
address changes, would propagate quickly.  Less convenient, sure --
but doable.

In such a case, a court would have to order actual IP blocking, a
much more complex and legally problematic undertaking compared with
ordering ICANN to pull the domain name of a company that's not even
U.S. based.

As Bob Frankston frequently proselytizes, life *can* go on without
domain names.

--Lauren--
Lauren Weinstein
lauren () vortex com or lauren () pfir org
Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800
http://www.pfir.org/lauren
Co-Founder, PFIR
   - People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org
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   - International Open Internet Coalition - http://www.ioic.net
Co-Founder, CIFIP
   - California Initiative For Internet Privacy - http://www.cifip.org
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> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org>
> Date: October 7, 2006 7:54:11 AM EDT
> To: dave () farber net
> Subject: Re: ICANN ordered by Illinois court to suspend spamhaus.org
>
> This is a really good perspective on the subject, from an Illinois bar
> lawyer:
> http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/664
>
> On Fri, 6 Oct 2006, Gadi Evron wrote:
>
> > Information about this court ruling can be found on Spamhaus's web
> > site,
> > here:
> > http://www.spamhaus.org/archive/legal/e360/kocoras_order_6_10.pdf
> >
> > Apparently, at this stage, it is only a proposed ruling. But I am no
> > lawyer.
> >
> >         Gadi.
>
>
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