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Re: "The ID Divide"
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 14:51:57 -0700
________________________________________ From: eackerma () gmail com [eackerma () gmail com] On Behalf Of Ethan Ackerman [eackerma () u washington edu] Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 5:43 PM To: David Farber Subject: Re: [IP] Re: "The ID Divide" Greetings Dave, (for IP if you see fit) DHS Assistant Secretary for Policy Baker makes an excellent point that some authentication solutions may be less than ideal solutions to the growing "ID divide" because they fall prey to the same economic forces that cause a "digital divide." But the Secretary's comments also serve to highlight the difference between an "ID divide" and a "digital divide. A "digital divide" is an artifact of economic inequality, usually not easily solved. An "ID divide" results from VOLUNTARY (and entirely reversible) policy choices by governments, and is solved with the stroke of a pen. Some of the solutions to "ID divides" discussed in the American Progress report are not 100% solutions, but the first proposed solution certainly is - the easiest way to solve an "ID divide" is to NOT unnecessarily create one in the first place. -Ethan On 6/8/08, David Farber <dave () farber net> wrote:
________________________________________ From: Stewart Baker [stewart.baker () gmail com] Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 12:22 PM To: David Farber Subject: Re: [IP] "The ID Divide" This report is premised on the notion that there's an ID divide comparable to the digital divide. So, it's pretty ironic that, when it gets around to proposing solutions (as opposed to criticizing existing programs), it says this: "[T]here is a promising approach that is rapidly becoming far more workable. For people with ready access to a computerized device, the device can use strong, unique passwords for each person for each organization. Fortunately, that kind of device is well on its way to being adopted. It is called the cell phone. Cell phones, laptop computers, smart cards, and other devices increasingly will be usable by ordinary people to provide strong passwords for each organization. There will be a social learning curve about how to do this sort of authentication. Device-based authentication, however, provides a way for individuals to be more secure and to manage what to reveal to organizations asking for proof of identity." Well, that should take care of the ID divide, all right. As soon all the people who are too poor to get drivers' licenses get cell phones. Stewart Baker On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 11:45 AM, David Farber <dave () farber net> wrote:________________________________________ From: Peter Swire [peter () peterswire net] Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 11:28 AM To: David Farber Subject: "The ID Divide" Hi Dave: Perhaps of interest to your list, this week we released a report on "The ID Divide: Addressing the Challenges of Identification and Authentication in American Society." The report is at http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2008/06/id_divide.html. A resource page on identification/authentication is at http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2008/06/id_resources.html. Your readers are familiar with the "digital divide," where life is quite different for those with great broadband vs. those with limited or no access to computing. The idea of the "ID Divide" is that there are growing problems for those who face problems proving their identity -- over 20 million American adults lack government-issued photo ID; identity theft hits over 8 million people/year; and the no-fly list will go over 1 million names this year. The report grows out of a project at the Center for American Progress where we included experts from a wide range of areas affected by identification: national/homeland security; immigration; voting; online authentication; e-health records; computer security; privacy; and civil liberties. The goal was to help create a unified approach for addressing these issues. Thanks, Peter Prof. Peter P. Swire C. William O'Neil Professor of Law Moritz College of Law The Ohio State University Senior Fellow, Center for American Progress (240) 994-4142, www.peterswire.net ------------------------------------------- Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com------------------------------------------- Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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