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Re: The Smart Grid and Cybersecurity
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:53:25 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: "R.A. Hettinga" <rah () shipwright com> Date: April 12, 2009 10:18:19 AM EDT To: dave () farber net Subject: Re: [IP] Re: The Smart Grid and Cybersecurity On Apr 12, 2009, at 8:27 AM, David Farber wrote:
As an experiment, some researchers have been studying what information can be learned by ultra-sampling. It turns out one can tell if someone drinks caffeinated vs. decaf!
It's turtles all the way down, too. :-).Adi Shamir (the "S" in RSA, at the Weizmann Institute in Israel) and Nicko van Someren (who with his brother Alex founded nCipher, the SSL- accelerator-box-company, and just sold it to Thales(?), the French(?) munitions maker) used to regularly show up at the Financial Cryptography conferences in Anguilla with some new hack in this regard.
One time, they showed how you could literally read the bits as they flew around *inside* a smart card. Another time, they could tell you *exactly* were a given private key was on a given hard drive, also just by schmoozing the bits therein, up-close-and-personal.
Cats and dogs living together. It's all in the FCXX proceedings somewhere, published by Springer Verlag.
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