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from the author -- Porn in the USA: Conservatives are biggest consumers
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:05:05 -0500
Begin forwarded message: From: "Edelman, Benjamin" <bedelman () hbs edu> Date: March 2, 2009 8:35:54 AM EST To: "dave () farber net" <dave () farber net> Subject: RE: [IP] Porn in the USA: Conservatives are biggest consumers Dave,I wrote the underlying paper being discussed in this thread. For anyone interested in the full paper, not just news coverage thereof, it's at http://people.hbs.edu/bedelman/papers/redlightstates.pdf .
To your readers' questions about privacy protections: The data I received had very few fields -- just zip code, date of subscription, and a very little bit of information about purchase (subscription duration, whether a new subscription). No names, no email addresses, no street addresses, no credit card numbers, nothing in that vein.
Brock's privacy concerns are well-taken in the abstract, and I share his general concerns. But I don't think those concerns have much bite given the limited data I received. To his question about the quality of the data-processing: My data source provided this data correctly, promptly, and just as described above.
Ben Edelman -----Original Message-----From: James Grimmelmann [mailto:james.grimmelmann () gmail com] On Behalf Of James Grimmelmann
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 8:18 AM To: Ben EdelmanSubject: Fwd: [IP] Re: Porn in the USA: Conservatives are biggest consumers
You might want to respond to this conversation taking place on Dave Farber's list. I read your paper to say that you got a multiset of zip codes and nothing else, but others are making some ungenerous assumptions about the privacy protections of your research methods. James Begin forwarded message:
From: David Farber <dave () farber net> Date: March 2, 2009 1:51:50 AM EST To: "ip" <ip () v2 listbox com> Subject: [IP] Re: Porn in the USA: Conservatives are biggest consumers Reply-To: dave () farber net Begin forwarded message: From: Peter Swire <peter () peterswire net> Date: March 1, 2009 10:12:42 PM EST To: "dave () farber net" <dave () farber net> Subject: RE: [IP] Re: Porn in the USA: Conservatives are biggest consumers Brock Meeks asks very good questions, which essentially boil down to this -- was the research done consistent with strong privacy protections? As Brock and many readers of this list know, there have been painful episodes where data was released for research purposes in the belief that privacy was protected. Then, the data was linked to an individual. One example was when AOL released the records of online searches, and a number of the indviduals were identified. As a more general matter, LaTanya Sweeney and others have shown that "deidentified" data can often be "reidentified." On the other hand, research is often a Good Thing. In the medical realm, research can go forward consistent with the HIPAA privacy rule in several ways -- consent by the patient, deidentification, approval by the Institutional Review Board, or subject to a data use agreement. Other privacy laws, and many privacy policies, do not have any similar path to conducting research. I think policymakers, and readers of this list, should want to accomplish the Good Thing of research and the Good Thing of privacy when possible. As a rough guide, the following should be considered: 1. Release data to researchers in truly deidentified form. That may have happened in the porn study, if the data was kept at the zip code level. (Then again, the list of credit card purchases may be like the AOL list of search terms -- some purchases or search terms are idiosyncratic enough that, combined with public records, the person can be identified.) 2. Consider creating Institutional Review Boards or the equivalent so that good practices are followed. It is true that IRBs can be a bureaucratic burden. But they also are an institutional mechanism to come up with protocols that meet good standards. 3. Consider releasing the data under data use agreements that bind the researchers. In this way, the researcher breaches a contract if names or other personal data are released outside the scope of the permitted research. Steps such as these can help us get useful research while also protecting individuals against privacy invasions they can't control. Peter Prof. Peter P. Swire C. William O'Neill Professor of Law Moritz College of Law of the Ohio State University Senior Fellow, Center for American Progress (240) 994.4142, www.peterswire.net -----Original Message----- From: David Farber [mailto:dave () farber net] Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 6:02 PM To: ip Subject: [IP] Re: Porn in the USA: Conservatives are biggest consumers Begin forwarded message: From: "Brock N. Meeks" <bmeeks () cox net> Date: March 1, 2009 1:50:27 PM EST To: <dave () farber net>, <jwarren () well com> Subject: Re: [IP] Porn in the USA: Conservatives are biggest consumers Leaving the original <ahem> thrust of this message aside, my foremost question was "how did the researcher obtain this data?" I've known Jim Warren for a couple of decades and I know how he values privacy, which is why I'm curious as to why Jim didn't raise the subject himself. In the New Scientist article, we read the researcher has a client that runs adult entertainment web sites and that this company provided the researcher "with roughly two years of credit card data from 2006 to 2008 that included a purchase date and each customer's postal code." Say what? I'm sure the last thing these subscribers thought their credit card info would be used for was any kind of social behavior study. Perhaps the "privacy" policies of such web sites informed subscribers that such a use of their information would be possible (I've not studied the privacy policies of such web sites, I just look at the pictures... Wait...) If say, oh, for example, the Airline industry, turned over this kind of "anonymized" credit card data to homeland security for a study of (whatever) I think Jim would be more than a bit concerned. Now, I suppose such a hypothetical sets up a comparison as to who is the more trustworthy: the adult entertainment industry, the researcher, the airline industry or Uncle Sam. I leave that debate to more informed colleagues. --Brock On 3/1/09 10:21 AM, "David Farber" <dave () farber net> wrote:Begin forwarded message: From: Jim Warren <jwarren () well com> Date: February 28, 2009 4:27:59 PM EST To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net> Subject: Porn in the USA: Conservatives are biggest consumers From the New Scientist - http://bit.ly/ZkOq 27 February 2009 by Ewen Callaway Americans may paint themselves in increasingly bright shades of red and blue, but new research finds one thing that varies little across the nation: the liking for online pornography. A new nationwide study (pdf) of anonymised credit-card receipts from a major online adult entertainment provider finds little variation in consumption between states. "When it comes to adult entertainment, it seems people are more the same than different," says Benjamin Edelman at Harvard Business School. However, there are some trends to be seen in the data. Those states that do consume the most porn tend to be more conservative and religious than states with lower levels of consumption, the study finds. ...<big snip>...------------------------------------------- Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com ------------------------------------------- Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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