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re FCC will tame the Internet - or Kill It


From: Dave Farber <dfarber () me com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:50:18 -0400





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From: Newmedia () aol com
Date: June 23, 2010 8:24:30 AM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Cc: dpreed () reed com
Subject: Re: [IP] re  FCC will tame the Internet - or Kill It


David (Reed):
 
Exactly!  Why should anyone believe what ATT (or Comcast) say they are spending on network expansion?  Why should we 
even care what they actually do spend?
 
The "game" of making threats to regulators by telecom companies is an ancient one.  Is there any evidence that 
changes in real capital expenditures by these large operators has had a material negative impact on Internet capacity 
expansion?
 
Futhermore, the major issue of network bandwidth in the US today is wireless, not wired.  All the major carriers are 
moving to LTE (i.e. Long-Term Evolution, aka 4G) buildouts.  The pace of this expansion and the cutover have been 
decided for many years and are unlikely to be influenced by these FCC decisions.
 
Agitprop is exactly what this feels like -- and on whose behalf?
 
Mark Stahlman
New York City
 
 
In a message dated 6/23/2010 6:25:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dave () farber net writes:


Reply to. dave () farber net

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary security deserve neither liberty nor 
security.”   Benjamin Franklin 

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From: "David P. Reed" <dpreed () reed com>
Date: June 22, 2010 6:44:54 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Cc: ip <ip () v2 listbox com>
Subject: Re: [IP] FCC will tame the Internet - or Kill It


This email is very, very strange.  AT&T *never* built the Internet in the first place - or maybe Dennis Kneale is 
rewriting history.

In particular, *in the middle '90's* you may recall that the Internet was growing at *record* pace.  What is Randall 
Stephenson talking about here?  Does Dennis Kneale, whom I know as a rather provocative Forbes editor, but not as 
particularly knowledgeable about ATT or any other business, know some secret      about ATT's (or SBC's) secret role 
in pushing the Internet forward?

Seems like agitprop.  Perhaps others on this list would like to explain how ATT became such a great Internet company 
in the 1990's without actually doing anything back then?  Just write a press release in 2010 and it becomes true?

On 06/22/2010 04:51 PM, Dave Farber wrote:



Reply to. dave () farber net

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary security deserve neither liberty nor 
security.”   Benjamin Franklin 

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From: Brett Glass <brett () lariat net>
Date: June 21, 2010 11:38:55 PM EDT
To: "dave () farber net" <dave () farber net>, Ip ip <ip () v2 listbox com>
Subject: FCC will tame the Internet - or Kill It


FCC Will Tame the Internet Or Kill It

Published: Friday, 18 Jun 2010 | 12:07 PM ET
By: Dennis Kneale
CNBC Media & Technology Editor

For almost two decades the U.S. government has kept its meddlesome mudhooks off the Internet, freeing it to spread 
its kudzu-like tendrils into the global economy. And it worked. The FCC took a big step this week to end all of 
that. For the first time, the Federal Communications Commission proposes using a set of 75-year-old phone 
regulations to oversee the Net of the 21st century and have a say in the prices that companies like AT&T and 
Comcast can charge. And set rules for what traffic they must carry. (Comcast is acquiring a 51 percent stake in 
NBC Universal' CNBC's parent company. The deal is awaiting regulatory approval.)

Some telecom execs say the FCC's agenda is downright radical. It could thwart high hopes for the wireless 
Internet, centerstage of the next digital revolution. The agency assault could restack the pecking order of 
winners and losers and reshape their stock prices, affecting the portfolios of millions of retirees and investors. 
It would impose new burdens on big carriers, while granting new power to content purveyors like Google and Yahoo.

At stake is billions of dollars that carriers like Verizon and AT&T spend each year to spruce up their networks to 
carry more digital bits. They will slash their spending if the feds restrain their upside; that could hurts jobs 
growth in high-tech, which employs well over two million people in the U.S.

If the FCC foray is imminent, "We have to re-evaluate whether we put shovels in the ground," is how AT&T's chief 
executive, Randall Stephenson, put it this week.

The last time the FCC tried such a major incursion, in the mid-1990s, Stephenson, then the company's chief 
financial officer, cut annual capital spending by more than half, from $12 billion to $5 billion dollars a year. 
That cut lasted for four years, until the courts threw out the FCC overreach.

More at

http://www.cnbc.com/id/37779304


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