Re Berninger v. FCC: Cert petition filed with Supreme Court today

["Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>]

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Brett Glass <brett () lariat net>
> Date: October 1, 2017 at 1:08:40 PM EDT
> To: Dave Crocker <dcrocker () gmail com>, dave () farber net, ip <ip () listbox com>
> Subject: Re: [IP] Re Berninger v. FCC: Cert petition filed with Supreme Court today
>
> At 10:46 AM 10/1/2017, Dave Crocker wrote:
>
> > Brett, actually you substantiate my point.  You are using a specialized, point-to-point technology, which is hugely 
> > different from the wireless technologies used more broadly.
>
> Again, incorrect. LTE is similar to our technology and is used by billions worldwide.
>
> > My point is not that wired has no issues while wireless has onerous ones.  My point is that wired has fewer issues, 
> > that are simpler to deal with, and that have a longer history of being dealt with well, at scale.
>
> Wrong. Wired broadband is often prohibitively expensive, especially in areas with low population densities (such as 
> Wyoming, where I live). The reason why I started the world's first wireless broadband provider, 25 years ago, was to 
> overcome the issues of wires.
>
> > My other point is that wired can constrain contention issues in ways that wireless cannot or at least -- to 
> > acknowledge the specialized kind of service you cite -- most cannot.
>
> The service I provide is not specialized. 3,000 WISPs in the US alone, and more than that worldwide, provide it.
>
> > Please review the simple, absolute sentence that prompted my original posting.
>
> I have. And it's incorrect. You apparently don't understand the science or the engineering aspects of wireless.
>
> > Then note your current, careful references to the very specific type of wireless you offer.
>
> As I have already mentioned, the type of wireless I offer is at least as common as Wi-Fi.
>
> > The issue is not that your statements about the current service are wrong, but that they don't generalize to the 
> > simple, absolute statement I commented on.
>
> Be cautious before making absolute pronouncements. They're likely to be absolutely wrong.
>
> > For any issue, it is always possible to cite a specific case that nicely demonstrates whatever wonderful 
> > characteristics one wants.
>
> That is exactly what you did, when claiming that your specific case - in which you configured a network incorrectly - 
> meant that all wireless is troublesome.
>
> >  The problem is with generalizing it to a wider range of users and/or a much larger number of users.
>
> Which is exactly what you did.
>
> > All true, but again you demonstrate my point:  wireless is more challenging to do well, in the general case.
>
> Incorrect. We make it plug-and-play. As mentioned above, wired broadband is often so challenging that it is 
> economically infeasible.
>
> > Sorry, but I disagree.
>
> Sorry - but, to be blunt, you're wrong. I've been in the business for 25 years and have thousands of satisfied 
> wireless broadband users. You botched the configuration of a single home network and are claiming that this one 
> experience gives you absolute knowledge of all things wireless. I strongly recommend that you learn the facts and the 
> science before pontificating.
>
> --Brett Glass



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