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Re US Homeland Security Will Start Collecting Social Media Info on All Immigrants October 18th


From: "Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 12:03:11 -0400




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From: Joel M Snyder <Joel.Snyder () opus1 com>
Date: September 27, 2017 at 11:56:57 AM EDT
To: dave () farber net, ip <ip () listbox com>, patrick () ianai net
Subject: Re: [IP] Re US Homeland Security Will Start Collecting Social Media Info on All Immigrants October 18th

The proposed change is not related to the visa issuance process; this is targeted towards immigrants.

The Gizmodo article is ridiculously over-the-top in its interpretation of the change that is being proposed and the 
potential issues.

Anyone who doesn't think that it is fair game for the USG to ask for your social media handles and email addresses 
and a ton of other very, very personal information before allowing immigration is living in a fantasy-land of 
ignorance.  Social media handles (not passwords mind you, just handles) are one of the least intrusive things that 
happen to someone when they ask to immigrate to the United States.

I realize that everyone is on a hair trigger about immigration, tourism, and refugees right now, but taking a notice 
that there's now a place in the database schema for social media handles in your immigration file and blowing it up 
into this nonsense is not helping the discussion any.

Regarding Gilmore's comment: he should have read the notice, not the article.

jms


On 9/27/17 5:03 PM, Dave Farber wrote:
Begin forwarded message:
*From:* "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net <mailto:patrick () ianai net>>
*Date:* September 27, 2017 at 11:02:10 AM EDT
*To:* Dave Farber <dave () farber net <mailto:dave () farber net>>
*Cc:* "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net <mailto:patrick () ianai net>>
*Subject:* *Re: [IP] US Homeland Security Will Start Collecting Social Media Info on All Immigrants October 18th*

That won’t hurt tourism or people wanting to spend money in this country at all.

</sarcasm>

The part that scares me the most is:
   “... even naturalized citizens ... “

My wife is a naturalized citizen. I thought once she had a passport, she was the same as the rest of us (other than 
not being able to be president)?

How would the courts look at DHS treating one citizen differently than another?

-- 
TTFN,
patrick


On Sep 27, 2017, at 10:15 AM, Dave Farber <farber () gmail com <mailto:farber () gmail com>> wrote:

https://gizmodo.com/us-homeland-security-will-start-collecting-social-media-1818777094


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