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Re: Has PSI been assigned network 1?
From: Alan Hannan <alan () mid net>
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 12:39:28 -0500 (CDT)
Good God People! Denninger, Vadim, Tony, could you quit bitching at each other? You all have some semi good points but they're lost in your snippity whiney counter attack back stabbing. It would make the signal to noise ratio much higher on this list if you all would focus on facts, not personal attacks. I'd like to get something out of this mailing list other than how stupid all of you think each other are.
The equipment available today is designed foolishly -- route update processing and actual packet processing should NEVER be done by the same CPU -- but it is -- and as such you're dead when this happens. Lest anyone believe this, it's bullshit. Karl just buys low end gear and then complains because it's not high end gear. TonyI suppose that a 7000 with a SSP is considered "low end" gear then? It was *Vadim* who was complaining about CPU usage on your boxes, not me. Karl Denninger (karl () MCS Net)Would you please refrain from attributing to me the things i did not say? Particularly i never said anything about "actual packet processing by the same CPU" here. I "complained" (heh i do not _complain_, i simply state the facts) about CPU usage by BGP updates. --vadimThat was my point Vadim. You were saying that Cisco's "state of the art" equipment was inadequate to handle the load you were presenting to it, in that the slightest abnormality in the external world made it essentially useless for a period of time. My argument is that one of three things must then be true: 1) You are incorrectly using the equipment you purchased. 2) The equipment is not meeting its specifications which you relied on when you purchased it. 3) The equipment is incapable of handling the load presented by a "modern" Internet. I have my own beliefs about which is the case, and I'm sure you do too. Or perhaps you were just making an excuse rather than presenting a case? -- -- Karl Denninger (karl () MCS Net)| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity Modem: [+1 312 248-0900] | (shell, PPP, SLIP, leased) in Chicagoland Voice: [+1 312 248-8649] | 7 POPs online through Chicago, all 28.8 Fax: [+1 312 248-9865] | Email to "info () mcs net" for more information ISDN: Surf at Smokin' Speed | WWW: http://www.mcs.net, gopher: gopher.mcs.net
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- Re: Has PSI been assigned network 1?, (continued)
- Re: Has PSI been assigned network 1? John G. Scudder (Apr 24)
- Re: Has PSI been assigned network 1? Stan Barber (Apr 24)
- Re: Has PSI been assigned network 1? Randy Bush (Apr 24)
- Re: Has PSI been assigned network 1? Brett Watson (Apr 24)
- Re: Has PSI been assigned network 1? Paul A Vixie (Apr 24)
- Re: Has PSI been assigned network 1? Randy Bush (Apr 24)
- Re: Has PSI been assigned network 1? Dale S. Johnson (Apr 24)
- Re: Has PSI been assigned network 1? Steven J. Richardson (Apr 24)
- Re: Has PSI been assigned network 1? Sean Doran (Apr 28)
- Re: Has PSI been assigned network 1? Vadim Antonov (Apr 28)
- Re: Has PSI been assigned network 1? Karl Denninger, MCSNet (Apr 29)
- Re: Has PSI been assigned network 1? Alan Hannan (Apr 29)
- Re: Has PSI been assigned network 1? Paul Traina (Apr 29)
- Re: Has PSI been assigned network 1? Karl Denninger, MCSNet (Apr 29)
- Re: Has PSI been assigned network 1? Vadim Antonov (Apr 28)
- Re: Has PSI been assigned network 1? bmanning (Apr 28)
- Re: Has PSI been assigned network 1? Vadim Antonov (Apr 29)
- Re: Has PSI been assigned network 1? Curtis Villamizar (Apr 30)
- Re: Has PSI been assigned network 1? Stan Barber (Apr 29)
- routers Steve Heimlich (Apr 29)
- Has PSI been assigned network 1? Tony Li (Apr 29)
- Re: Has PSI been assigned network 1? Steve Heimlich (Apr 30)
- Re: Has PSI been assigned network 1? Stan Barber (Apr 29)