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Re: Peering versus Transit
From: Alexis Rosen <alexis () panix com>
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 04:31:49 -0400 (EDT)
Vadim Antonov writes:
Sanjay Dani(maillists) <indus () professionals com> wrote:Heh. That's an example of how stupid technology is being preserved by stupid legistlation. The laws regarding POTS are generally legal fixes for techincal problems (like inability to block annoying calls).Forgotten the syn flood attack so quickly? Heard of IP spoofing?How long did it take for OS vendors to come up with fixes? A week. And for how long telcos can't do anything about annoying calls? A hundred years. That only confirms my point.
I agree with Vadim 100% on his larger point (the hydra-like peering vs. transit argument). That said, I think that this particular response is wrong. The fact that Avi and I hacked out a half-assed solution in a few days, or that OS vendors are working on a four-fifths-assed solution now (most don't have one ready, as far as I know), doesn't really solve the problem. Most people here can probably name a half-dozen ways off the top of their head to use forged- source-IP packets to do incredible damage to large numbers of hosts or to most/all of the net. I know I can, and I'm far from the biggest expert here. Source IP forging is a Sword of Damocles that hangs over the net. It will destroy us, sooner or later, if we don't do something about it. /a - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Current thread:
- Re: Peering versus Transit Craig A. Huegen (Sep 30)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Peering versus Transit Michael Dillon (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Nathan Stratton (Oct 01)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Nathan Stratton (Oct 01)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Avi Freedman (Oct 01)
- Re: Peering versus Transit William Allen Simpson (Oct 01)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Owen DeLong (Oct 01)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Alexis Rosen (Oct 02)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Alexis Rosen (Oct 02)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Alexis Rosen (Oct 02)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Alan Hannan (Oct 02)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Alexis Rosen (Oct 04)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Alan Hannan (Oct 02)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Eric D. Madison (Oct 02)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Avi Freedman (Oct 02)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Alan Hannan (Oct 02)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Nathan Stratton (Oct 02)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Avi Freedman (Oct 02)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Avi Freedman (Oct 02)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Eric D. Madison (Oct 02)