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Re: Peering versus Transit


From: Alexis Rosen <alexis () panix com>
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 04:31:49 -0400 (EDT)

Vadim Antonov writes:

Sanjay Dani(maillists) <indus () professionals com> wrote:

Heh.  That's an example of how stupid technology is being
preserved by stupid legistlation.  The laws regarding POTS are
generally legal fixes for techincal problems (like inability
to block annoying calls).

Forgotten the syn flood attack so quickly? Heard of IP spoofing?

How long did it take for OS vendors to come up with fixes?
A week.

And for how long telcos can't do anything about annoying calls?
A hundred years.

That only confirms my point.

I agree with Vadim 100% on his larger point (the hydra-like peering vs.
transit argument).

That said, I think that this particular response is wrong. The fact that
Avi and I hacked out a half-assed solution in a few days, or that OS vendors
are working on a four-fifths-assed solution now (most don't have one ready,
as far as I know), doesn't really solve the problem. Most people here can
probably name a half-dozen ways off the top of their head to use forged-
source-IP packets to do incredible damage to large numbers of hosts or to
most/all of the net. I know I can, and I'm far from the biggest expert
here.

Source IP forging is a Sword of Damocles that hangs over the net. It will
destroy us, sooner or later, if we don't do something about it.

/a
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