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Re: Peering versus Transit
From: Vadim Antonov <avg () quake net>
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 23:44:18 -0700
Pointing default to somebody over IXP is simply theft.
Straw man. You're the first one to substitute "default" for "peer".
There are two ways to have packets go where no BGP routes are announced -- by adding bogus static or whatever routes or by pointing default. Both are malicious. Note that accepting third party routes is also something not generally welcomed. If you're not given routes you're _not_ expected to send your packets. Consider that a "no trespassing" notice. Backbones are _private_ property. As such the operators are in their right to demand that others leave their equipment alone.
If that were true, it would support your argument. Since it's not, don't you agree that it simply makes the rest of your argument even more suspect?
Example, please, when somebody conforming to the stated policies was denied peering? (Plase note that the process of establishing bilaterial agreements may be rather lengthy, considering that it has to go through all kinds of financial and legal bureaucracy). --vadim - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Current thread:
- RE: Peering versus Transit, (continued)
- RE: Peering versus Transit Chris A. Icide (Sep 29)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Barney Wolff (Sep 29)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Peter Galbavy (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Neil J. McRae (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Alex.Bligh (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Peter Galbavy (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Bill Woodcock (Sep 29)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Vadim Antonov (Sep 29)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Dorian R. Kim (Sep 29)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Bill Woodcock (Sep 29)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Sean Doran (Sep 29)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Vadim Antonov (Sep 29)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Bill Woodcock (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Matt Zimmerman (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Jeff Young (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Matthew Kaufman (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Sean Doran (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Barney Wolff (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Dorian R. Kim (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Dorian R. Kim (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Dorian R. Kim (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Barney Wolff (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit William Allen Simpson (Sep 30)
(Thread continues...)