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Re: Peering versus Transit
From: Peter Galbavy <peter () wonderland org>
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 08:34:46 +0100 (BST)
Is it really the case that people with routers at exchange points actually consider a packet addressed to one of their own customers to be theft of service? So far, I note, we haven't heard any position expressed by any of the big folks, just by others outraged on their behalf.
No, the point is sending data through another IXP member without recieving the invitation, in the form of a route advertisment, is stealing. You are using resources that you do not have permission to use. Some of us are very sensitive about this, and once when we lost all connecivity to the outside of the UK (going back about 18 months now) we made sure we *phoned* a couple of LINX peers (thanks to those at PIPEX and JANET at the time) to ask if we could just add forwarder entried in our DNS servers towards them for some level of name service. JANET was also down - same tx atlanic cable, but PIPEX had connectivity. They said yes, and then we did. I treat unwelcome data at whatever level as theft of something that belongs to me/us etc. The really sad thing is that in that 18 months, I can't see the above being repeated again, since most ISPs are now run by faceless monsters and not the engineers (who made it all work). Death of the net predicted... pics at 11. Regards, -- Peter Galbavy peter () wonderland org @ Home phone://44/973/499465 in Wonderland http://www.wonderland.org/~peter/ snail://UK/NW1_6LE/London/21_Harewood_Avenue/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Current thread:
- Re: Peering versus Transit, (continued)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Alex.Bligh (Sep 29)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Peter Galbavy (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Dorian R. Kim (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Alex.Bligh (Sep 29)
- Re: Peering versus Transit maillists (Sep 29)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Nathan Stratton (Sep 29)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Bill Woodcock (Sep 29)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Alan Hannan (Sep 29)
- RE: Peering versus Transit Chris A. Icide (Sep 29)
- RE: Peering versus Transit Chris A. Icide (Sep 29)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Barney Wolff (Sep 29)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Peter Galbavy (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Neil J. McRae (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Alex.Bligh (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Peter Galbavy (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Bill Woodcock (Sep 29)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Vadim Antonov (Sep 29)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Dorian R. Kim (Sep 29)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Bill Woodcock (Sep 29)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Sean Doran (Sep 29)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Vadim Antonov (Sep 29)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Bill Woodcock (Sep 30)
- Re: Peering versus Transit Matt Zimmerman (Sep 30)