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Re: Murkowski anti-spam bill could be a problem for ISPs


From: Dory Ethan Leifer <leifer () terminator rs itd umich edu>
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 11:02:41 -0400


You can also bet that ISPs interfering with the delivery of even junk
spams is going to be a tough thing in court. I think the spammers will
have plenty of legal precedent to remove the ISPs blocking. Ultimately,
only the intended recipient can do the blocking.

Dory

The definition of "real email address" is a vague thing indeed...  For
example, I have many "real email addresses".  I have many more addresses
I could legitimately claim are real addresses that are, in fact, routed
to /dev/null.  Why heck, the use of the <> construct could be considered
a real email address.  I realize the bill addresses this to a certain
extent, but not enough.

The other problem is that any spammer outside the US can fry any ISP inside
the US with this law.

Owen

Yes that would be a cinical view :)  One thing that I like is it requires
the sender to use their REAL address, and flag the message as a SPAM.  It 
would also need to cover the unauthorized use of MY mail relay server.
Thus the SPAMMER would have to use there server and NOT bounce off of me.
To do so would be considered a theft of service.

jmbrown

Seems to me it's even worse than this.  Seems to me that the bill, while
well intentioned, could be used by Spammers to say "See, it's OK to SPAM,
it says so here.  We put the word advertisement on the subject line.  See,
if people don't want to see it, the law says their ISP filters it.  We're
doing exactly what the law says we should.  It condones SPAM."

Or did I miss something about this law?

Owen





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