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Re: NAP Architecture
From: the Riz <riz () beast boogers sf ca us>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 09:06:30 -0800 (PST)
Ben Kirkpatrick wrote:
Forgive my ignorance on these matters, but why haven't many NAPS tried to be L1 based, or at least provide the option of private wire/fiber between the larger customers in the same room. It seems to me that this would significantly reduce the complexity and packet-loss we're currently seeing. How long would it take to troubleshoot a cross-over FE compared to trouble shooting two routers connected via a oversubscribed switch. Marketing types are concerned about how to bill and track these, but there should be some easy ways around those issues. --Ben Kirkpatrick Data Products, Electric Lightwave, DID=360.816.3508 -not speaking for ELI, not even speaking- "Consciousness: that annoying time between naps."
This *is* becoming more popular; in the US, the main problem is that many (most?) of the exchange points are operated by telcos, who are tariffed. This means that any connection between separate entities is a "circuit" that they must charge a certain minimum amount for. As more telcos manage to move their exchange point operations into the non-regulated portion of their respected businesses, this may change, and exchanges are currently being built by non-telco entities, which are allowed to have more reasonable charges to connect cages in the same facility together. (Disclaimer: in my other life, I work for one such facility... the PAIX in Palo Alto) Personally, I see this mix of "public" and "private" exchange in the same facility as being a necessary evolution of the infrastructure of the net; one size definitely does not fit all. +j -- Jeff Rizzo http://boogers.sf.ca.us/~riz
Current thread:
- Re: NAP Architecture, (continued)
- Re: NAP Architecture bmanning (Oct 23)
- Re: NAP Architecture Chris A. Icide (Oct 23)
- Re: NAP Architecture Neil J. McRae (Oct 24)
- Re: NAP Architecture Vijay Gill (Oct 24)
- Re: NAP Architecture Alec H. Peterson (Oct 24)
- Re: NAP Architecture Neil J. McRae (Oct 24)
- Re: NAP Architecture Vijay Gill (Oct 24)
- Re: NAP Architecture bmanning (Oct 23)
- Re: NAP Architecture Kent W. England (Oct 28)
- Re: NAP Architecture Ben Kirkpatrick, ELI (Oct 29)
- Re: NAP Architecture bmanning (Oct 29)
- Re: NAP Architecture the Riz (Oct 29)
- Re: NAP Architecture Alec H. Peterson (Oct 29)
- Re: NAP Architecture Mike Leber (Oct 29)
- Re: NAP Architecture Alex Rubenstein (Oct 29)
- Re: NAP Architecture Bill Manning (Oct 29)
- Re: NAP Architecture Alex Rubenstein (Oct 30)
- Re: NAP Architecture bmanning (Oct 30)
- Re: NAP Architecture Alex Rubenstein (Oct 30)
- Re: NAP Architecture bmanning (Oct 30)
- Re: NAP Architecture Ben Kirkpatrick, ELI (Oct 29)
- Re: NAP Architecture Alex Rubenstein (Oct 30)