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RE: Lawsuit threat against RBL users
From: Chris Mauritz <chrism () raremedium com>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:46:32 -0500
That's a pretty shortsighted view, Sheryl. I suspect you haven't been on the receiving end of some idtiot buying a leased line/virtual web presence from you and then spamming from an AOL/PSI/earhlink/yadda yadda account. It isn't pleasant. Folks aren't stupid. They ignore the fact that the tool used to spam was a throwaway account and go right for the jugular (you). It's better to have a zero tolerance policy and not have to deal with the silliness in the first place. Chris Chris Mauritz Director, Systems Administration Rare Medium, Inc. chrism () raremedium com -----Original Message----- From: Sheryl Chapin [mailto:schapin () ctel net] Sent: Thursday, November 19, 1998 8:48 AM To: nanog () merit edu Subject: Re: Lawsuit threat against RBL users
That's right. It stops the practice of using a sacrificial account, from AOL or netcom, to spam for a web-site that is otherwise protected. Does it make a difference that they didn't spam from their own ISP? That customer is *still* a spammer whether they did it from your site or not. Maybe you're of the "It's alright as long as they don't do it here" crowd? Well, that's one of the things that the RBL was built for. The rest of us don't have to put up with your negligence.
I don't see it as "it's alright as long as they don't do it here". I see it as "I have control over my network, but not over anyone elses". I have an AUP that specifically states spamming is not allowed. I have kicked off users who have spammed. However, I do not have an AUP that says "If you ever spam anyone ever in the world on any network anywhere I will disconnect whatever service you have". I don't control the entire internet, just my little piece of it. :-) Sheryl Chapin Senior Network Engineer CommTel Internet 207.377.3508 Winthrop, Maine schapin () ctel net
Current thread:
- Re: Lawsuit threat against RBL users Dave Rand (Nov 18)
- Re: Lawsuit threat against RBL users Scott Michel (Nov 18)
- Re: Lawsuit threat against RBL users Paul Vixie (Nov 19)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Lawsuit threat against RBL users Tim Salo (Nov 18)
- Re: Lawsuit threat against RBL users Andrew Staples (Nov 18)
- RE: Lawsuit threat against RBL users Chris Mauritz (Nov 19)
- Re: Lawsuit threat against RBL users Karl Denninger (Nov 19)
- Re: Lawsuit threat against RBL users Bob Allisat (Nov 19)
- Re: Lawsuit threat against RBL users David Stoddard (Nov 19)
- Re: Lawsuit threat against RBL users Bob Allisat (Nov 20)
- Re: Lawsuit threat against RBL users Nathan Stratton (Nov 20)
- Re: Lawsuit threat against RBL users Bob Allisat (Nov 20)
- Re: Lawsuit threat against RBL users Karl Denninger (Nov 19)
- Re: Lawsuit threat against RBL users Scott Michel (Nov 18)
- Re: Lawsuit threat against RBL users Phil Howard (Nov 19)
- Re: Black Hole Vixie/RBL Rodney Joffe (Nov 19)
- Re: Black Hole Vixie/RBL Paul Vixie (Nov 19)