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Re: Is anyone actually USING IP QoS?


From: "Alex P. Rudnev" <alex () Relcom EU net>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 21:10:50 +0400 (MSD)


From: Danny McPherson <danny () qwest net>
To: nanog () merit edu
Subject: Re: Is anyone actually USING IP QoS? 



Or you can try from the other end - doing replication on the fly, and 
convert existing UNICAST data streams to the multicast if (and where) 
it's nessesary only.

Hrmmm...  Seems to me as though, in it's most optimal state, that'd be 
multicast?  Great idea!
May be, but _I am here, and you are there, and my friends there are busy 
by the other projects -:)_. Btw, I don't like to miss such good idea -- 
may be, I'll found some way to realise it. 

The best place for it, btw, is just existing WWW caches caching _on the 
fly_ (as cisco WWW engine).

internet - and it have not eny success except a few of pylot projects. 
Compare RealVideo auditory and multicast auditory for now... And why 
don't try anpther approach.

Several providers have deployed/are deploying NATIVE multicast today on their 
"production" IP networks today (many have had intra-domain enabled for years), 
and deploying inter-domain mulicast via existing direct interconnects and the 
MIXs.  Not only is there a b/w savings, there's a huge savings on the source 
side as well.  A primary concern is the ability of existing and new router 
vendors platforms to do this efficiently.
I know. But remember - it took a lot of time to make _peering 
aggreements_, to debug _bgp inter-domain routing_, _control of the 
routing by the communities_, etc etc. You are wrong, there is not 
_hardware vendor's problem_, it's _policy problem_ for now.





The benefits are obivous though and router vendors are definitely progressing, but as with any technology, debugging 
and getting the protocols to a usable state, one to which SLA/SLGs can be assoicated, takes time.  

-danny




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