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Re: florida ix(en) facing south
From: Christian Kuhtz <ck () arch bellsouth net>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 14:30:02 -0500
On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 02:07:59PM -0500, Douglas A. Dever wrote: [..]
Of course, there are probably some economic realities which will set in sooner or later. :-)
Not to get into a flame war, but.. The implication I read into it is that they will definitely work against you. Sorry if I got that wrong. We only cook with water around here and this isn't created in a vacuum. And I think there are some obvious realities to transport costs which have nothing to do with whether I'm writing this and happen to be employed by an affiliate of an RBOC or not. Like, is an ATM VC cost really cheaper (if it some happens that it does appear that way) than say TDM transport or a 802.1q GE pipe when you take into account overhead, equipment and operational cost? I think the answer depends on far more than the NAP, specifically who you are and what your infrastructure is. If you happen to be a fibermule, you probably don't care to run ATM unless you must. If you happen to already have ATM and that's what you live by then perhaps it's not worth the change. If you are colo-ed, why bother with anything but a cheap and efficient VLAN? Just to point out a few examples, don't claim I have any authority on any of the answers at this point (because there are a lot more variables to actually answer these questions; some are very subjective).
I have no doubt of that, but in the end, these things have to pay for themselves. Many projects start out with incredibly open-minded people working on a great project, but in order to shake things out on the bottom line, bean-counters and MBA's eventually brush some (or a lot) of that aside to address the "economic realities." Forgive me if I'm sounding skeptical, but none of us are here to lose money.
True. And you should be skeptical like the rest of us. I guess we'll all see how it turns out. But it also depends a great deal on communicating clearly, so, hopefully this will aid in that regard. Cheers, Chris PS: Thank god for the nomex lined pants ;-) -- Christian Kuhtz <ck () arch bellsouth net> -wk, <ck () gnu org> -hm Sr. Architect, Engineering & Architecture, BellSouth.net, Atlanta, GA, U.S. "I speak for myself only.""
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- RE: florida ix(en) facing south, (continued)
- RE: florida ix(en) facing south Daniel L. Golding (Dec 22)
- RE: florida ix(en) facing south Randy Bush (Dec 22)
- Re: florida ix(en) facing south Leo Bicknell (Dec 24)
- Re: florida ix(en) facing south Daniel L. Golding (Dec 24)
- RE: florida ix(en) facing south Christian Kuhtz (Dec 27)
- Re: florida ix(en) facing south Christian Kuhtz (Dec 21)
- Re: florida ix(en) facing south Douglas A. Dever (Dec 21)
- Re: florida ix(en) facing south Christian Kuhtz (Dec 21)
- Re: florida ix(en) facing south Jeff Mcadams (Dec 21)
- Re: florida ix(en) facing south Lucy E. Lynch (Dec 21)
- Re: florida ix(en) facing south Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 21)
- Re: florida ix(en) facing south - hohoho David Diaz (Dec 21)
- Re: florida ix(en) facing south - hohoho Nathan Stratton (Dec 21)
- Re: florida ix(en) facing south - hohoho Charles Sprickman (Dec 21)
- Re: florida ix(en) facing south - hohoho jlewis (Dec 21)