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Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS
From: "danielle v." <hvn () wildstar net>
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 23:07:09 -0600 (CST)
On 14 Jan 2000, Paul Vixie wrote:
Date: 14 Jan 2000 18:41:48 -0800 From: Paul Vixie <vixie () mibh net> To: nanog () merit edu Subject: Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS That's a misleading question. MAPS RSS doesn't probe for relay openness unless spam has been received from the relay in question. OTOH, if there is spam receipt and if the relay doesn't appear to be reachable, a human operator can decide that a firewall might be involved and block the relay in spite of our inability to test it. MAPS RSS never blocks whole address ranges, only /32's. ORBS is apparently blocking whole /16's belonging to Abovenet only because Abovenet refuses to have whole /16's probed for SMTP servers and then having each such server probed for relay openness. (I can't say as I blame them.) -- Paul Vixie <vixie () mibh net>
In effect, Above.net is (by filtering the ORBS probes) licensing every single IP in their /16 to spam via the sordid and detailed means that ORBS works to prevent. This is an incorrect assumption? Please educate me as to how this is the wrong way to view this. I am under the assumption that the said block on Above.net/16 didn't go into effect until ORBS itself was blocked - thus the resulting block on Above.net. danielle v
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- Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS, (continued)
- Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS I Am Not An Isp (Jan 13)
- Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS Alex P. Rudnev (Jan 13)
- Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS Randy Bush (Jan 13)
- Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS Greg A. Woods (Jan 13)
- Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS Randy Bush (Jan 13)
- Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS William Allen Simpson (Jan 13)
- Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS Patrick Greenwell (Jan 13)
- Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS Edward S. Marshall (Jan 13)
- Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS Alex P. Rudnev (Jan 13)
- Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS Paul Vixie (Jan 14)
- Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS danielle v. (Jan 14)
- Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS Paul A Vixie (Jan 14)
- Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS Greg A. Woods (Jan 14)
- Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS Paul Vixie (Jan 15)
- Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS Greg A. Woods (Jan 15)
- Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS Paul Vixie (Jan 15)
- Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS Greg A. Woods (Jan 19)
- Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS J.D. Falk (Jan 19)
- Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS scott w (Jan 19)
- Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS Barry Shein (Jan 18)
- Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS J.D. Falk (Jan 18)