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Re: ISPs as content-police or method-police
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:54:32 -0500
On Mon, 20 Nov 2000 09:21:10 MST, Ehud Gavron said:
It is clear (to me) that customers who get a connection to the net do NOT want that connection limited nor censored.
Unfortunately, it's NOT clear that this is the case. The average customer just THINKS they want something. The question of whether it's something actually reasonable to do is a different issue.... Remember - the *reason* this is a point worth discussing at *ALL* is because such a large percentage of customers don't have a CLUE - if (for instance) 98% of the shops had enough clue to close down open shares, we'd not be seeing so many scans for them. I suspect that if a large percentage of Tier 1/2 carriers actually filtered ports 137 through 139, we'd not be seeing anywhere near the amount of QAZ and similar activity. And as has been pointed out, you can ALWAYS punch a hole in the filter for customers who like to live risky, or they can find other ways to tunnel their packets. -- Valdis Kletnieks Operating Systems Analyst Virginia Tech
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- Re: ISPs as content-police or method-police Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 20)
- RE: ISPs as content-police or method-police Christian Kuhtz (Nov 20)
- Re: ISPs as content-police or method-police Shawn McMahon (Nov 20)
- Re: ISPs as content-police or method-police Ben Browning (Nov 20)
- RE: ISPs as content-police or method-police Christian Kuhtz (Nov 20)
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