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Re: What does 95th %tile mean?


From: Henry Yen <henry () AegisInfoSys com>
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 08:17:56 -0400


On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 07:09:56AM -0400, Andrew Odlyzko wrote:
First, while there have been many postings about 95th %tile
pricing, nobody has said what that pricing actually is.  Well,
here is an example of such pricing, downloaded from the UUNet
page 2 years ago.  (I could not find current prices there on
a quick scan.  Perhaps somebody else can post them, especially
for higher bandwidth connections.)  Ignoring one-time start-up 
fees, regular flat rate T-1 service was available from UUNet at 
$2,495 per month.  The burstable rate (based on the 95th %tile 
rating) was:

                   T1 Usage Level            Burstable Service
                                             Monthly Rate
                   0 to 128 Kbps             $1,295
                   128 Kbps to 256 Kbps      $1,895
                   256 Kbps to 384 Kbps      $2,495
                   384 Kbps to 512 Kbps      $2,750
                   Over 512 Kbps             $3,000

current UUnet T-1 pricing (metro NYC area):

0-128K          $995
128K-256K       $1,395
256K-384K       $1,795
384K-512K       $1,895
512K           $2,095

flat-rate       $1,795

(local loop extra.  setup charge of $3,000 extra.  router extra.)

note that UUnet indicates they do not specifically compete on price. (duh.)
in the same area, i've gotten T-1 quotes as low as $500, plus loop.

Note that even if the link is not used at all, you pay more than
half the cost of a full T-1 connection.  (Hence some of the
imaginative gaming schemes that have been proposed, involving
rotating Web hosting traffic among a bunch of connections, are
clear losers, as some posters have already noted.  It is less
expensive to have a single unlimited service T-1 than two
burstable one.)  Moreover, if your usage gets above a certain
level, you pay more than for the full T-1.

the UUnet contract reads, "If Customer's sustained use level (95th percentile
traffic sampling rate) exceeds Customer's then-current burstable service
in two consecutive months, Customer's burstable service level may be upgraded
by UUNET and the monthly billing adjusted accordingly."  it doesn't specify
if this adjustment is retroactive (it doesn't seem so).  there's also
provision for downgrading, on similar terms.

Yet another factor that comes in is that of discounts.  The
prices listed above were the list prices.  I have been told by
one member of this list that substantial discounts are common
for full connections, but seldom for burstable ones, which makes
the case against flat rate links even weaker.

any study on this issue should also include comparisons of fractional
circuit pricing, too.  although i've rarely (never?) seen a situation
where fractional makes financial sense (i.e., the frac prices were
typically only slightly less than full pricing), the fact that
you can quickly/instantly turn a couple of knobs and upgrade
to a higher fraction could be a factor, especially if you don't
intend to normally burst any higher than the fraction you're paying for.

-- 
Henry Yen                                       Aegis Information Systems, Inc.
Senior Systems Programmer                       Hicksville, New York


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