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peering requirements (Re: DDOS anecdotes)
From: Paul Vixie <vixie () mfnx net>
Date: 23 Jun 2001 12:05:56 -0700
... but I do not blame their IP stack for this like Mr Gibson does though.
Same here.
... From spoofed sources because ISPs do not source address filter? Gah. Basically untraceable.
This is the problem.
What should we do?
Recommendation: upgrade your peering requirements to include language like: Each peer agrees to emit only IP packets with accurate source addresses, to require their customers to do likewise, and to extend this requirement to all other peers by $DATE. Where DATE = (now() + '6 months') or some other negotiated value. I've been saying this since 1993. Is anybody ready to believe me yet? We solve this, or our industry stops growing because we're spending too much time dealing with this problem and new customers see diminished returns.
Current thread:
- DDOS anecdotes Sean M. Doran (Jun 23)
- Re: DDOS anecdotes Mikael Abrahamsson (Jun 23)
- Re: DDOS anecdotes Pim van Riezen (Jun 23)
- Re: DDOS anecdotes Mikael Abrahamsson (Jun 23)
- Re: DDOS anecdotes Charles Sprickman (Jun 24)
- Re: DDOS anecdotes Pim van Riezen (Jun 23)
- RE: DDOS anecdotes Vivien M. (Jun 23)
- RE: DDOS anecdotes Mikael Abrahamsson (Jun 23)
- RE: DDOS anecdotes Tim Wilde (Jun 23)
- peering requirements (Re: DDOS anecdotes) Paul Vixie (Jun 23)
- Re: peering requirements (Re: DDOS anecdotes) Eric Oosting (Jun 23)
- Re: peering requirements (Re: DDOS anecdotes) Roland Dobbins (Jun 23)
- Re: peering requirements (Re: DDOS anecdotes) Simon Lyall (Jun 23)
- Re: peering requirements (Re: DDOS anecdotes) Roland Dobbins (Jun 23)
- What is evil: IP spoofing or Distributed attacks? (was Re: DDOS anecdotes) Przemyslaw Karwasiecki (Jun 23)
- RE: DDOS anecdotes Mikael Abrahamsson (Jun 23)
- Re: peering requirements (Re: DDOS anecdotes) Paul Vixie (Jun 26)
- RE: peering requirements (Re: DDOS anecdotes) Przemyslaw Karwasiecki (Jun 26)
- Re: peering requirements (Re: DDOS anecdotes) Paul A Vixie (Jun 26)
- Re: DDOS anecdotes Mikael Abrahamsson (Jun 23)
- Re: peering requirements (Re: DDOS anecdotes) Randy Bush (Jun 26)
- Re: peering requirements (Re: DDOS anecdotes) Paul A Vixie (Jun 26)