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Re: peering requirements (Re: DDOS anecdotes)
From: Paul A Vixie <vixie () mfnx net>
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:30:06 -0700
But please don't forget that in this particular DDoS event there was no IP spoofing. So anti-spoofing precautions, either on administrative or technical level, would be useless in this case. And this case is not so untypical.
that doesn't matter to me. i, and people i'm various close to, am attacked several times daily. sometimes in a hard way, sometimes in a soft way, but almost always using spoofed addresses. tracking these hop by hop using mac addresses at exchange points only works if the stream is steady. it's not.
my .002$
i was not basing my recommendation for a general peering agreement upgrade on any specific attack. it's the pattern of attacks over the last decade that's got me bugged. any angry teenager with a $300 openbsd machine can bring down any part of the internet they're angry at. with impunity.
Current thread:
- RE: DDOS anecdotes, (continued)
- RE: DDOS anecdotes Mikael Abrahamsson (Jun 23)
- RE: DDOS anecdotes Tim Wilde (Jun 23)
- peering requirements (Re: DDOS anecdotes) Paul Vixie (Jun 23)
- Re: peering requirements (Re: DDOS anecdotes) Eric Oosting (Jun 23)
- Re: peering requirements (Re: DDOS anecdotes) Roland Dobbins (Jun 23)
- Re: peering requirements (Re: DDOS anecdotes) Simon Lyall (Jun 23)
- Re: peering requirements (Re: DDOS anecdotes) Roland Dobbins (Jun 23)
- What is evil: IP spoofing or Distributed attacks? (was Re: DDOS anecdotes) Przemyslaw Karwasiecki (Jun 23)
- RE: DDOS anecdotes Mikael Abrahamsson (Jun 23)
- Re: peering requirements (Re: DDOS anecdotes) Paul Vixie (Jun 26)
- RE: peering requirements (Re: DDOS anecdotes) Przemyslaw Karwasiecki (Jun 26)
- Re: peering requirements (Re: DDOS anecdotes) Paul A Vixie (Jun 26)
- Re: peering requirements (Re: DDOS anecdotes) Randy Bush (Jun 26)
- Re: peering requirements (Re: DDOS anecdotes) Paul A Vixie (Jun 26)
- Re: peering requirements (Re: DDOS anecdotes) Randy Bush (Jun 26)
- Re: peering requirements (Re: DDOS anecdotes) Paul A Vixie (Jun 26)
- Re: peering requirements (Re: DDOS anecdotes) Randy Bush (Jun 26)
- Re: peering requirements (Re: DDOS anecdotes) Paul A Vixie (Jun 26)
- Re: peering requirements (Re: DDOS anecdotes) Randy Bush (Jun 26)
- Re: peering requirements (Re: DDOS anecdotes) Hank Nussbacher (Jun 27)
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- RE: DDOS anecdotes Daniel Senie (Jun 23)
- RE: DDOS anecdotes Greg A. Woods (Jun 23)