RE: new.net

[Roeland Meyer <rmeyer () mhsc com>]

That idea sank in WG-C. I saw it go down. The oil-slick has even dissipated
and the survivors have been hauled out of the drink and dried off already.

I've been one of the chief opponents to trademarked TLDs and Intellectual
Property incursions into this DNS mess. Where were you? I could have used
the help. I am very much anti-WIPO and the UDRP is a WIPO brain-fart.

Over the past five years, I have occasionally gone through here, trying you
get NANOG folk involved, even before the ICANN. However, even this subject
matter has been suppressed here for a long time. Now that new.net has come
up with some serious capital clout, y'all finally wake up. Well, it's about
three years late and a whole lot more than a buck short.

Hell, I don't even care if you agree with me or not. The issue is to get
involved for the long-term. Technical issues are NOT divorced from politics,
as much as you would like it to be so. Like business issues control IT
policies, ICANN politics will control the Internet, unless y'all speak up,
regardless of what you say.

What you say, strongly indicates that you have not been following the
issues.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu [mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu]
> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 7:26 AM
> To: Scott Gifford
> Cc: nanog () merit edu
> Subject: Re: new.net 
>
>
> On Fri, 09 Mar 2001 13:07:15 EST, Scott Gifford said:
> > I like the idea of creating a new ".tm" TLD (or something 
> less likely
> > to conflict with a CCTLD), and requiring anybody who wants trademark
> > protection to register there; everything else is a 
> free-for-all, as it
> > pretty much is now.  Let them have their little trademark disputes
> > over there, and let less litigious heads rule in the other TLDs.
>
> Still broken.
>
> Trademarks are for use within a given business segment - that's why
> you can have an Apple Computer and an Apple Records - one is in the
> computer business, and one is in the music business.  Apple Computer
> *did* have to promise Apple Records to never engage in the 
> music business
> in order to use the trademark (this became an issue when QuickTime and
> other similar technologies threatened to blur the distinction).
>
> You'd need to have a .computer.tm, a .music.tm, a 
> .automobile.tm and so
> on for all the categories recognized by the trademark office...
>
> -- 
>                               Valdis Kletnieks
>                               Operating Systems Analyst
>                               Virginia Tech